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Prayer Space Requested (Muslims say they need quiet room at Welsh-Ryan Field)
The Daily Nortwestern ^ | 1-9-2007 | Dan Fletcher and Paul TakahashiIssue date: 1/9/07 Section: Campus

Posted on 01/15/2007 2:06:40 PM PST by Cagey

Amid the cheering Northwestern football fans at Ryan Field, all Ashar Wasi wanted was a quiet place to pray. The only place he could find was a spot of less-than-clean floor in a public walkway.

"We had to pray in front of the concession stand, in front of all the people," the McCormick junior said.

Perhaps someone noticed. At last Wednesday's ASG meeting, the Muslim-cultural Students Association proposed a bill establishing a designated prayer area at Welsh-Ryan Arena for Muslim students for football and basketball games.

McSA President Amir Siddiqui estimates more than 20 Muslim students are in attendance at nearly every game.

"Oftentimes while students are at sporting events, the prayer time falls during the game," the Weinberg senior said. "If there was a space to pray, or even an opportunity for students to leave and re-enter, things would be better. Right now, it can be difficult."

John Mack, associate athletic director of external affairs, said McSA contacted him about the problem as early as mid-October. Despite discussing the request in staff meetings, Mack said they couldn't provide a solution.

"This is a request we took seriously," he said. "We appreciate all student support, but we didn't feel there was a suitable area for prayer. There's not enough space in the arena."

Mack said the athletic department doesn't allow any spectators to leave and re-enter the facilities during an event.

"When you give preferential treatment, while respecting their group's religion, it's tough to determine where to draw the line in terms of our entire fan base," he said.

Regardless, some Muslim students said the current rules present an inconvenience that warrants more discussion.

"Right now, we have to pray late afterwards or early and it's annoying," said Ramah Kudaimi, a Medill senior. "It's a lot more convenient to have a designated area than having to pray at different times."

Kudaimi said she occasionally uses the designated prayer area in Parkes Hall on Friday, the Muslim holy day. Another area was established in the Technological Institute for a similar purpose.

"It's a lot more comfortable for other students who may not want to come upon someone praying," she said.

Siddiqui said he hopes the ASG resolution, if passed, will open up a dialogue with the athletic department.

"If we just had an opportunity to talk, we could find a solution," he said.

For his part, Mack said he would be willing to listen again. He doubts, however, that much can be changed for this season.

But Wasi, who frequents the prayer area at Tech five days a week, wishes it were different.

"All I want is a little bit of privacy, he said. "Carpets would be nice. It doesn't need to be soundproof, just clean."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: basketball; brainwashing; dhimmitude; football; indoctrination; islam; muslims; northwestern; sharia; shariah; shariahlaw; sharialaw
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To: Nathan Zachary

Thank you for the correction.


61 posted on 01/15/2007 2:42:02 PM PST by Howlin (The GOP RATS - Republicans Against Total Success (Howie66))
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To: Guajiro

so far, the MPLS Airport Commission has not complied to their demands.


62 posted on 01/15/2007 2:42:37 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Cagey

Wait a minute, they were praying in front of the concession stand, where alcohol is served? I thought that Muslims were offended by alcohol consumption, even the sight of a closed container in a taxi cab. Maybe the Muslims should just stay home, so that they won't be offended.


63 posted on 01/15/2007 2:43:15 PM PST by Eva
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To: Cagey
You have got to be s****ng me. I kept looking to see if this was Scrappleface.

Well, as Boortz says, "Allah, protect me from your people." That's my prayer.

64 posted on 01/15/2007 2:47:44 PM PST by Marathoner
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To: Howlin

Absolutely! That's why I backed it up with a link to the info.

What I'd like to know is how long each prayer lasts if you're not at the mosque.


65 posted on 01/15/2007 2:51:11 PM PST by debg
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To: Cagey

I'm surprised they didn't ask for the game to be suspended so they would not miss a play. Oh wait, that's next.


66 posted on 01/15/2007 2:51:43 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: o_zarkman44

Go to the men's room and pray to the porcelain god while praying to mohammed. They're both full of sh*t.


67 posted on 01/15/2007 2:52:15 PM PST by manic4organic
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To: stockpirate
Violates the seperation between church and state, the college is state funded and it would be showing support of Mulims above Satan Worshipers even though Satan worship is higher up the ladder.

Northwestern is a private school.

68 posted on 01/15/2007 2:53:18 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Cagey
I'm sorry, but if you cannot manage to get through a football game without having to pray to Mecca, then perhaps you are in the wrong country.

Yes, people do pray at football games (and baseball games, etc.) but, as was apparent during this years World Series, they tend to do it quietly in their seats. It's called adjusting to your situation.

Will they then be making another quiet area as a chapel for the Christian students who may be overcome with a need to pray?

69 posted on 01/15/2007 2:53:32 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Eva
Wait a minute, they were praying in front of the concession stand, where alcohol is served?

Absolutely, positively, no alcohol is served at Northwestern sporting events. The city of Evanston is the world HQ of the Women's Christian Temperance Union. The town was completely dry until the early 1970's.

70 posted on 01/15/2007 2:54:48 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Howlin
I lived near a mosque for a few months. They pray 5 times a day facing Mecca..... First prayer is between the first light of dawn and sunrise. #2 prayer is after Midday #3 prayer is mid-afternoon #4 prayer is at sunset #5 prayer is
from one and a half hours after sunset......The mosque near where I lived was an old warehouse they were remodeling. They had no AC so often the prayers were done up on the roof of the building. Trust me it was loud and annoying. I was very happy to be able to move back into my house when the builders were done.......I don't understand the need to force prayer rooms/areas on the rest of us. I don't see why a Muslim can't go into a bathroom, have a portable prayer mat and pray. If he doesn't want to carry the prayer mat put some paper towels down and just pray. We should stop adapting our lives to these people. If they want to practice their religion fine but don't demand Muslim prayer rooms . We have not done that for other religions why do we need to start now? They need to adapt to our way of life.
71 posted on 01/15/2007 2:54:55 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah and dilligaf?)
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To: Howlin

Look for it under its new name.


72 posted on 01/15/2007 2:55:01 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: Cagey
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it against the law? I do believe if the state and/or federal government provide some funds for the school, thus they school cannot set up rooms specifically for ONE religion that would be an endorsement of religion which is a no no.
73 posted on 01/15/2007 2:55:16 PM PST by Shots (Loose Lip sink ships.........)
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To: Howlin

No problem

The Muslim god, <--- Note small 'g'

Or ilah (god)
Or Allah (Name of Islamic rock ilah)
Satan.


74 posted on 01/15/2007 2:56:23 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Cagey

This is a wedge issue, expect it to continue until there are two standards: one for Muslims and one for everybody else.


75 posted on 01/15/2007 2:57:52 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: randog
Sounds like they will: "This is a request we took seriously," he [John Mack, University Lackey] said.

What omnipotent force in the universe is so overpowering and so terrifying that it reduces mere men to quivering blobs of jello?

Political correctness, that's what.

Lackey's spine slid out his backside and ran wimpering down the street once he realized a minority or religious (except Christian of course) group was demanding something.
76 posted on 01/15/2007 2:59:25 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (You'll shoot your eye out, kid)
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To: manic4organic
There is no better time to pray than while holding down the porcelain throne. Except for church.
All God fearing people should make good use of idle time to pray.

I wonder how long before there will be a time out in a football game, so certain players can throw down the prayer rugs because of the time of day?

While the crowd is doing the wave!
77 posted on 01/15/2007 2:59:39 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Ha ha that's great!


78 posted on 01/15/2007 3:00:03 PM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Howlin
You're suppose to pick a country, but I couldn't find the United States on there; I could be wrong

Look under "Land of the Great Satan".

79 posted on 01/15/2007 3:00:31 PM PST by reg45
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To: pandoraou812

They intentionaly want to annoy you, shove their religion in your face, make it dominate in society.

There plan isn't to adapt to our ways, it's to convert you to theirs, Dhimmi.
Convert, or pay Jizya tax (infidel tax) or die.

The world and all that's in it is for Allah. You beter learn to understand that they mean it, and will do everything, including kill you to make it so.


80 posted on 01/15/2007 3:01:24 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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