[rodguy911]

My guess is that if we play the abortion or the gun card instead of the war, border, economy and other issues, it might not get us where we want to be--on the winning side.

I still say to win the next election we have to bring in voters from the squishy middle--independents,not a pleasant thought but it is reality.

[snugs]

I still say to win the next election we have to bring in voters from the squishy middle--independents,not a pleasant thought but it is reality.

This is always the case IMHO and is applicable to Britain as much as the US. This is why the Conservatives in Britain are currently taking the route they are - they want to win next time - I hope and pray they do I cannot face another 8 - 9 years of Labour.

[Morgan in Denver]

I agree with you rodguy911. The winner in 2008 will be the person who gets the vote from independents and non-aligned voters.

Our side needs a solid conservative who can draw from Libertarians as well as those independents who used to be Democrats but left as they got so radical. A Democrat-Lite candidate cannot do that.