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Christian leader rejects McCain
NewsNetDaily.com ^ | Januaru 13, 2007 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 01/13/2007 1:56:54 PM PST by Reagan Man

Dobson says he couldn't support senator 'under any circumstances'

A prominent Christian leader whose radio and magazine outreaches are solidly in support of biblically-based marriages – and keep in touch with millions of constituents daily – says he cannot consider Arizona Sen. John McCain a viable candidate for president.

"Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances," said James Dobson, founder of the Colorado Springs-based Focus on the Family as well as the Focus Action cultural action organization set up specifically to provide a platform for informing and rallying constituents.

Dobson, who always is careful to note that he's not speaking for the non-profit ministry, which cannot advocate for or against candidates legally, also doesn't hesitate to state his personal opinions on social or political issues and agendas.

Several times he's talked to Republicans, the traditionally conservative political party, about the need to maintain the values of that large part of the U.S. population, or lose the support of those people.

His most recent comments came during an interview on the Jerry Johnson Live program on KCBI 90.0 FM.

The show host noted that pro-family conservatives already are thinking about the next cycle of leadership in the United States, which will be determined in the 2008 presidential and congressional elections. He also noted that McCain and New York mayor Rudy Guiliani appear to be the leaders.

Then he asked Dobson to listen to a statement from McCain and respond.

"I think, uh … I think that gay marriage should be allowed if there's a ceremony kind of thing, if you wanna call it that … I don't have any problem with that," McCain says.

"Dr. Dobson, would you be comfortable with someone like John McCain as the … conservative or Republican candidate for president?" Johnson asked.

"Well, let me say that I am not in the office. I'm in the little condo so I can speak for myself and not for Focus on the Family," Dobson said in rejecting McCain's leadership.

He noted that legislation he'd just been discussing on the program, regarding an attempt by Democrat leaders in Congress to create obstacles for ministries such as Focus to reach constituents with action messages about pending legislation, is being supported by McCain, too.

"That came from McCain, and the McCain Feingold Bill kept us from telling the truth right before elections … and there are a lot of other things. He's not in favor of traditional marriage, and I pray that we won't get stuck with him," Dobson said.

The provisions of the new congressional proposal, hidden deep inside a plan to reform lobbying rules to eliminate the many recent scandals involving members of Congress, would require pro-family groups to provide documentation of their actions to the government any time they try to spark any "grass-roots" action.

Phone calls, personal visits, e-mails, magazines, broadcasts, phone banks, appearances, travel, fundraising and other items all would be subject to government tabulation, verification and audits, Dobson said during a recent program. "On and on it goes."

"Clearly, the objective here is to hide what goes on from the public and punish and silence those of us who would talk about what our representatives are doing," Dobson said of the plan by Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev. American Family Association Chairman Donald Wildmon, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins and American Values President Gary Bauer joined Dobson in urging listeners to flood Capitol Hill with phone calls demanding those speech limits be removed.

Bauer said the telephone number to call is: 202-224-3121.

Focus also has begun an online petition, at Focuspetitions.com.

Wildmon characterized the Washington proposal as a message to the American public: "We don't want to hear from you, and this is the way we're going to handle it."

Dobson also earlier scolded Republicans for blaming the 2006 election victories by Democrats in many races across the country on conservatives.

"Dick Armey emerged from four years in the wilderness to blame conservative Christians for Tuesday's defeat. They were, he said, 'too involved' with the party. He can't be serious! Someone should tell him that without the support of that specific constituency, John Kerry would be president and the Republicans would have fallen into a black hole in '04," Dobson said in a story WND reported earlier.

"Values Voters are not going to carry the water for the Republican Party if it ignores their deeply held convictions and beliefs," he said.

"Republican leaders in Congress during this term apparently never understood, or they forgot, why Ronald Reagan was so loved and why he is considered one of our greatest presidents. If they hope to return to power in '08, they must rediscover the conservative principles that resonated with the majority of Americans in the 1980s – and still resonate with them today. Failure to do so will be catastrophic," Dobson said.

Dobson noted he'd been interviewed by U.S. News and World Report after the 2004 elections and warned if Republicans squandered their opportunity, they would pay a price at the polls in either 2008 or 2006.

Dobson's predictions about values and the Republican Party go back even further than that, too.

In 1998 he told a reporter that the GOP was in danger of losing its ability to "claim to speak for those of us with deep moral convictions."

He said at that time the party has "ignored the moral issues year after year, term after term" and said at that time it was "time to fish or cut bait."

At that time he also warned the GOP Christians and conservatives "will abandon them if they continue to ignore the most important issues."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: tkathy
These idiot people won't be happy until they have destroyed the republican party and put the dims in power permanently.

Are you saying that, because I don't support McCain since I have reason to believe he would be disastrous for the nation, that I am participating in the destruction of the Republican party.

Is McCain really the only salvation for the party?

21 posted on 01/13/2007 2:15:13 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: tkathy
I believe you had a typo, I'll fix it:
These idiot people 'moderates', aka RINOs won't be happy until they have destroyed the republican party and put the dims in power permanently.
There, that's better.
And no, you don't have to thank me. It was my pleasure.


22 posted on 01/13/2007 2:15:47 PM PST by Condor51 (The Dem's don't want another 'Vietnam' - they want another Dien Bien Phu.)
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To: freepersup

He knows McCain well, so do I from his antics and under no way will I vote for him.


23 posted on 01/13/2007 2:17:21 PM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: tkathy
These idiot people won't be happy until they have destroyed the republican party and put the dims in power permanently.

In what way have these 'idiots' destroyed the republican party?

In many ways these are the people who made the party.

I don't need Dobson to tell me how to vote, but the "party" is pretty much lost it's conservative values, it has also lost me.

24 posted on 01/13/2007 2:23:03 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: ClarenceThomasfan; Brilliant

I'm not voting for McCain OR Clinton under any circumstances.


25 posted on 01/13/2007 2:28:27 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Reagan Man

I would not vote for McCain in a primary. But if it were Hillary and him on the ticket...I still believe that there is a "worse" of two evils...and McCain would not be the worst person in the office in that case.


26 posted on 01/13/2007 2:31:17 PM PST by dawn53
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To: Condor51

LOL! Thanks for the smile that brought.


27 posted on 01/13/2007 2:31:54 PM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Condor51

Us despised moderates think for ourselves and don't need a total idiot to tell us how to vote.


28 posted on 01/13/2007 2:32:03 PM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: Reagan Man

"I pray that we won't get stuck with him," Dobson said.


Me too.


29 posted on 01/13/2007 2:33:17 PM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: Reagan Man

I really wish he wouldn't say stuff this way.

Undoubtedly he'd support McCain to forestall a Hillary presidency.


30 posted on 01/13/2007 2:34:03 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: TommyDale

A tacit endorsement of Romney, unless Dobson is going to play footsie with the also-rans. If Dobson endorses Romney, it would effectively kill the Mormon question. It would be especially effective if it were done before Iowa.


31 posted on 01/13/2007 2:37:42 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: bmwcyle

McCain's ACU score is misleading. He's a conservative opponent on some very big and fundamental issues. But he is good on WOT and generally pro-tax-cuts.

But he's so egotistical and hot-headed. If he weren't old, mean and crazy, he'd be a good president. :)


32 posted on 01/13/2007 2:39:30 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: Condor51

No typo - I'm not a moderate, and as far from a RINO as one can get on the right side. But I don't want a Dem president, so will never stay home from voting in 2008 no matter who Republicans nominate. In the meantime I'll do what I can to make sure the right (literally) candidate gets the Pub nomination.


33 posted on 01/13/2007 2:39:43 PM PST by Moonmad27
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To: dawn53
If it boils down to a McCain or Hillary POTUS vote, why vote?

If the GOP has gotten to the point where McCain is the nominee, is that a party worth supporting?

In my opinion, NO.

To be perfectly honest about it, I'm not sure McCain is the lesser of two evils

34 posted on 01/13/2007 2:40:12 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: bmwcyle

When America woke up on Nov. 8 they thought they'd voted for candidates who would make Iraq some how, some way, just go away. Instead, they just helped establish the Fourth Caliphate. What's funny about it, they still don't even realize what they have done.


35 posted on 01/13/2007 2:42:13 PM PST by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: Popman

In the War on Terror, I think McCain is the lesser of two evils. Other areas, probably not much difference, but terrorism and the military would definitely benefit more with McCain as POTUS rather than Hillary.


36 posted on 01/13/2007 2:49:49 PM PST by dawn53
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To: Popman

These idiots are the ones who have hurt the Republican Party by turning it into the party of the bible thumpers instead of the party of fiscal conservatism. Mr. Dobson is part of what's wrong with the conservative movement today.


37 posted on 01/13/2007 2:55:45 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (I'm pretty sure the phrase life is too short doesn't exist in Islam-Dennis Miller)
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To: Condor51
... These idiot people 'moderates', aka RINOs ...,/i>

And how do you think whackjobs from the fringe are going to be elected? Your please appears to be to lose.

38 posted on 01/13/2007 2:59:41 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Popman
... but the "party" is pretty much lost it's conservative values, it has also lost me.

So vote for some other loser, Pop. You'll get your demonrat regardless, and when there are only demonrats whatcha gonna do?

39 posted on 01/13/2007 3:02:45 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Popman
... why vote? ...

Do try and keep your chains oiled so they don't make so much noise.

40 posted on 01/13/2007 3:05:51 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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