Posted on 01/13/2007 8:56:02 AM PST by fanfan
And still they're preaching poison
Every Friday, the Muslim worshippers begin to arrive just after midday on an anonymous Home Counties urban street. They are hoping to secure a good spot during the weekly Islamic prayer meeting, a short walk from the Surrey town of Sutton's bustling High Street and the old parish church of St Nicholas.
They include teenage boys, college students and adult men - a crowd of 100 people, some in white robes and carrying the Koran. Here, in Robin Hood Lane, they are eager to hear the words of a preacher called Abdul Latif and to join him in prayer.
It seems an unlikely setting but it is in places such as Sutton that one can discover the uncomfortable truth about how deeply the tentacles of radical Islam have spread.
The Muslim cleric preaching hatred and Islamic supremacy is a middle-aged family man with two daughters. He is a skilled orator - by profession an engineer and a brilliant teacher of Arabic who has lived in Britain for three decades.
Yet what he preaches at Friday prayers is a chillingly vituperative litany against his adopted country and the non-Muslims who live here. This is despite the fact that under the Racial and Religious Hatred Act brought in last year, it is an offence to stir up racial or religious hatred, intentionally or otherwise, in a public or private place, including mosques.
Mr Latif has called Tony Blair a 'murderer'; he says that every British soldier in Iraq should be killed and he proclaims that the London bombings in July 2005 (an atrocity in which 57 innocents died) was orchestrated by the Government.
'We don't have Muslim terrorists... they do not exist. But anything that they (the Government) claim is Muslim terror, they do it themselves,' Mr Latif informed his devoted followers one week.
A week later, he said: 'The British soldiers are the soldiers of Satan, the soldiers of evil, of evilness. And I pray to Allah openly and in English that they will not return back except when they are dead - all of them.'
During these religious speeches, monitored by the Mail over a period of a month, he also condemned the Pope as a loud-mouthed drunk and said President Bush's Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, was an unclean fornicator.
Non-Muslims in Britain, declared Mr Latif, are dirty, unclean people who never wash their hands and become ill because of their own sexual promiscuity. He went on to denounce British democracy as 'demon-ocracy' and praised the shariah laws of Islam under which thieves have their hands cut off and adulterous women are stoned to death in public.
In another inflammatory outburst, made directly to 'youngsters' at the prayer meeting, Mr Latif said that the British and Americans were deliberately trying to destroy the reputation of Islam and Muslims.
And the reaction of his congregation in a youth centre sports hall (rented to Mr Latif's religious organisation, Companions of the Mosque, by Sutton local education authority)? A few murmured their approval but, much more disturbingly, when the cleric pretended to forget the person he called 'the dictator of Britain', a young man listening from his prayer mat quickly shouted out: 'Blair!'
As one worshipper told us: 'Please don't think that Mr Latif is alone in what he says. In many mosques, whether they are in the suburbs or the towns or the cities, there are imams (Islamic clerics) just like him giving powerful speeches which are turning Muslim worshippers against this country.
'The preachers say that Christians, the Jews and other religions will always be the enemy. A whole generation of young Muslims is being brainwashed into believing such inflammatory things,' the middle-aged professional man who is a devout follower of Islam told us.
Similar stories emerging from Britain's mosques have long been dismissed as untrue by the Muslim community and their leaders. The Muslim Council of Britain says most imams are moderate men.
So the Mail asked Mr Latif why he had voiced such explosive views at his Friday meetings, particularly to an audience that included impressionable young Muslims under 25.
Speaking to us by telephone, he did not deny a word, saying: 'I was, though, speaking at private prayers. I would not say the same things in public, out on the street, because it wouldn't bring harmony.' He refused to comment further.
Yet on Monday, another investigation into Britain's mosques, by Channel 4's respected Dispatches programme, will reveal worrying evidence of just how rife Islamic extremism is among Muslim preachers.
The undercover TV inquiry, conducted over ten months, reveals some religious clerics urging their congregations to start preparing for jihad (holy war) against infidels or non-Muslims. Another is caught on camera telling families to hit their daughters for not covering their heads with the veil or hijab.
One imam from a Derby mosque, called Dr Ijaz Mian, was filmed calling for the creation of an Islamic 'state within a state' in Britain before the country is taken over by Muslims.
Addressing a group of youths, he said: 'King. Queen. House of Commons ... if you accept it, you are part of it. If you don't accept it, you have to dismantle it. So you being a Muslim, you have to fix a target. There will be no House of Commons ... Muslims just grow in strength ... then take over.'
The programme paints an alarming picture of how preachers, even at what are regarded as the most moderate mosques, urge their followers to reject Britain's legal system in favour of shariah law and its radical rulebook.
The investigators spent four months filming undercover at one mosque, Green Lane in Birmingham, which caters for thousands of worshippers.
The main preacher is Abu Usamah, an American convert to Islam, who studied at Medinah University in Saudi Arabia, before coming to Britain. He is seen telling worshippers not to believe that Islamic terrorists are operating in Britain, as all non-Muslims are liars.
In another sequence, he is heard saying that Christians and Jews are 'kuffaars' (non-believers) and the enemies of Islam. 'No one loves the kuffaar, not a single person loves the kuffaar,' he rants. 'We hate the kuffaar!' Then he adds, triumphantly: 'Allah has not given those people who are kuffaar a way over the believer. They shouldn't be in authority over us. Muslims shouldn't be satisfied with anything other than a total Islamic state.
'I encourage all of you to begin to cultivate ourselves for the time that is fast approaching - where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength. And when that happens, people won't get killed - unjustly,' he promises.
As for women, he says they are 'deficient, even if they have a PhD. Her intellect is incomplete. She may be suffering from hormones that will make her emotional. It takes two witnesses of a woman to equal the one witness of a man.'
He goes on to say that gays deserve to die. 'If I were to call homosexuals perverted, dirty, filthy dogs who should be murdered ... that's my freedom of speech, isn't it?'
The TV investigators also bought damning videos and DVDs of speeches by Muslim preachers from a shop at the London Central Mosque in Regent's Park.
The mosque has always been hailed by the Muslim Council of Britain and the Government as a symbol of reason and mainstream Islamic life in this country.
But the programme's team found copies of films of preachers decrying the equality of women as a 'bunch of foolishness' and claiming that Christian missionaries put the Aids virus into medicines in order to poison the people of Africa.
The TV exposé, like the Mail's own investigation in Surrey, shows that the systematic brainwashing of Muslims by their religious leaders is now commonplace. And it appears to be producing results.
Just five months ago, a national survey of 1,000 British Muslims, including the young and the old, male and female, revealed that 30 per cent wanted to live under shariah law and less than half referred to the United Kingdom as their country.
Twenty-eight per cent said they believed Britain should be an Islamic state. In another worrying sign, one in three young Muslims said that the London bombings were justified because Britain had joined America in the 'war on terror'.
There are 1,600 mosques in Britain and 3,000 imams who preach in them. Many of these religious mentors may be balanced in their views, but a dangerous minority are plainly not.
Former MI5 spy and Muslim Reda Hassaine told the Mail this week: 'Everything that is said in the mosques of the Islamic countries is being said in British mosques, too. Why not? The religious clerics who come to Britain will not change their views because they now preach here.'
The Algerian has worked undercover in this country's mosques for seven years, including the infamous
Finsbury Park Mosque in North London. He was one of the earliest to warn the British intelligence services of the 'enemy within' - Islamic clerics who are systematically brainwashing young Muslims into hating their country.
At Finsbury Park, he watched the inflammatory speeches of the radical hook-handed cleric Abu Hamza, now imprisoned for inciting murder and racial hatred. It was there that the firebrand cleric prayed beside the British-born shoe-bomber Richard Reid, found guilty in America of trying to blow up a passenger plane.
Hassaine said: 'I saw the brainwashing of disenchanted men and boys, week after week and month after month. Some were persuaded to become freedom fighters or suicide bombers for Al Qaeda because of what they were told in our mosques. Today, nothing has changed.'
Yesterday we went back to Sutton to see the worshippers flocking to hear Mr Latif make his weekly sermon at the youth centre. He has boasted that his popularity, particularly among the young, is growing. On a blustery and chilly winter day, the number arriving to hang on his every word was as big as ever.
Ping!
Outstanding post. Thanks.
The whole lot of them should be shot.
Coming to America soon!
Freedumb of relgion!
Revised headline - "Britain begins to get a clue!!"
If self styled"Christian" clerics passed out this kind of rhetoric I'm sure the government would find a way to put a stop to it.
"He goes on to say that gays deserve to die. 'If I were to call homosexuals perverted, dirty, filthy dogs who should be murdered ... that's my freedom of speech, isn't it?'"
Maybe it is, Jackass. So is calling your prophet(May he roast in Hell) a degenerate pedophile.
. . with bullets greased with pork fat.
And the bodies emasculated, and buried sewn inside a pig skin.
After all, if they want us to adhere to their faith, then using their taboo symbols is fair play in combat against Islam.
THEY are playing for keeps. If the West wants to survive, we have to as well. . .
This seems to be the approach to the "End of Times", in that Islam is the word of Satin come to action. What other explanation is there to this cult?
The time has come to strike the Devil and his worshipers, and send them into the bowels of the earth from whenst they came.
This is becoming old, tired, and costly. The time has come for us to destroy Islam and it's followers.
Dear God, forgive me for saying this but I think it is time. I am a Christian and I believe that men should have a conduit to God by their faith, but I also believe that the faith should be Godlike. Islam is not!
Why this kind of report doesn't incite ACTION on the part of the British is beyond me. Can't they see the danger in their midst?
I think they are starting to see it.
I'm sure we have the same types here in North America. We're not stopping it either. Yet.
Bring 'em on!
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