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No More 'Surge' Protection? Now Oliver North Comes Out Against Iraq Plan
Editor & Publisher ^ | 1/5/07

Posted on 01/11/2007 11:02:47 AM PST by steve-b

Bob Herbert and our own Joe Galloway, you'd expect -- even, by this point, Thomas Friedman -- but Oliver North? But it happened, in the hawkish Fox News contributor's new syndicated column, where he came out against President Bush's reported plan to escalate the number of U.S. troops in Iraq.

North recalls that on his recent return to Iraq, "Not one of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, Guardsmen or Marines I interviewed told me that they wanted more U.S. boots on the ground. In fact, nearly all expressed just the opposite: 'We don't need more American troops, we need more Iraqi troops,' was a common refrain. They are right."...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: foritbeforeagainstit; iraq; olivernorth; ollie; spoketoosoon
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To: steve-b
I thought there was a FR Headline last week attributed to a North column that said: More Troops = More Targets and he was against it.
41 posted on 01/11/2007 11:59:28 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: steve-b

42 posted on 01/11/2007 12:13:10 PM PST by Gritty (We've tried to be fair, and we failed. Now let's concentrate on winning. - Ralph Peters)
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To: BallyBill
I thought there was a FR Headline last week attributed to a North column that said: More Troops = More Targets and he was against it.

See #37.

Apparently Ollie's changed his mind.

43 posted on 01/11/2007 12:15:44 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: steve-b
sounds eerily like Lyndon Johnson's plan to save Vietnam in the mid 1960s

Nothing eerie about it. More troops = overwhelming strength which is needed at times.

George Bush is nothing like Lyndon. Lyndon was sidetracked by his "War on Poverty" which was more important to him and he micro-managed from the Oval. Bush is as far from Lyndon as you can get.

44 posted on 01/11/2007 12:20:09 PM PST by what's up
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To: Alberta's Child

Wrong! I say again. North was on "Hannity and Combs" on Tuesday and backed the surge. I heard it byself.


45 posted on 01/11/2007 6:25:27 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Too many morons. So little time.)
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To: johnny7

That's fine. The Colonel has obviously rethought his position. He stated that he was for the surge on Hannity & combs on Jan 9th. Regardless, Col. North is, with all due respect, not the be-all-end-all of military strategists. I respect him greatly. But if he disagreed, then I would only disagree with him. I am sure that there have been more than one strategist in every war back to the beginning of time that disagreed with others. The surge only makes sense.

The Dems even know it makes sense but as usual are too wrapped up in their politics to acknowledge the wisdom of the plan. It wasn't long ago that they supported it, but since they are the party of flip flop and weathervanes....


46 posted on 01/11/2007 6:34:21 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support the Surge!)
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To: SerpentDove

Everybody is a general,,does that irritate others as much as it does me.


47 posted on 01/11/2007 6:35:51 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

Everybody is either a General or a Decorator or God forbid....both.


48 posted on 01/11/2007 6:42:41 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: cajungirl

not nearly as much as it irritates me that people spoke against Bush's plan before he even made the details public. gonna be a long 2 years.


49 posted on 01/13/2007 2:02:02 PM PST by cyn
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To: goodnesswins; From One - Many; All

I don't think Bush would give out secrets in what is going to happen...


50 posted on 01/13/2007 2:07:49 PM PST by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Here's why it really makes sense: Baathism is dead in Iraq. The Saddamites now have no hope. None. The only hope they have now is an al Qaeda-run anti-state like in Somalia.

This is the time to take control.


51 posted on 01/13/2007 2:22:59 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: From One - Many
Without a defined mission there is no reason to give the enemy more targets on the ground. Perhaps people are beginning to wake up?

The mission is defined as pacifying Baghdad and Anbar. Is there some reason you can't grasp this?

52 posted on 01/14/2007 8:37:27 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: oolatec
Ok, what's the mission then?

Pacify Baghdad and Anbar. You can't really not know that, can you?

53 posted on 01/14/2007 8:40:02 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: OldCorps

I still believe airpower is the answer in Iran.


54 posted on 01/14/2007 8:41:28 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: Star Traveler

I think the troop surge is for what they're saying it's for, but I agree with you that an attack on Iran will be from the air. It will also need to be massive. When we hit their nuke sites we also need to hit their military hard.


55 posted on 01/14/2007 8:45:11 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: AmishDude

I completely agree (of course). You know you're doing the right thing when the Arabs are upset. Wonder what the Kurds think. BTW, the Kurds have been sent down to help out.

My favorite part of the President's speech is the part where he said he sent the battle group to the Persian Gulf. Iran better watch out.

One of the biggest threats is right here at home. The anti-war Left and the Dems. It is important for everyone who sees the wisdom of the President's plan to get out and counter these forces. People have to have patience far longer that the drive-thru at the local burger joint. They have to have the patience and courage to win. Victory might not (probably will not) be immediate as the President stated, but neither was Thomas Jefferson's invention of the light bulb. It took over 3000 attempts. Was it worth it.


56 posted on 01/14/2007 12:51:11 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Too many morons, so little time.)
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To: oneamericanvoice

I am convinced that if the Democrats and international Left had not made Bush a villain that Iraq would be a peaceful, stable democracy today.

They give the Baathists, al Qaeda and Iranian-backed Shia hope.


57 posted on 01/14/2007 12:58:32 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

"I am convinced that if the Democrats and international Left had not made Bush a villain that Iraq would be a peaceful, stable democracy today."


Iraq wouldn't be a peaceful, stable democracy, but it would be farther ahead to that goal than now. The Democrats and the Left aren't the only players. Credit must be given to the insurgents from Chechneya, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, and Iran. The Chechneyans are drugged out jihadis that are especially vicious. Afterall, they were the architects of the school hostage massacre. The Democrats and the Left are useful idiots of the radical Muslim agenda, both wittingly and unwittingly.


58 posted on 01/14/2007 3:26:16 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Too many morons, so little time.)
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To: steve-b; 2Jedismom; 2rightsleftcoast; abner; ACAC; Arkinsaw; aumrl; bboop; Beck_isright; ...

Ollie Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Oliver North ping list...

59 posted on 01/20/2007 8:21:40 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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