[qam1]

Here's the Robert Samuelson column he's talking about

Entitled Selfishness

[eleni121]

BUMP

[qam1]

Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.

[dawn53]

Folks, it is the present day retirees who will not put up with any changes whatsoever, and they vote. That is the stumbling block to getting anything changed.

LOL, Rush must have read my post yesterday on the subject (just kidding.)

I wrote in post number three of this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1765141/posts

Sorry to disagree with this guy, but IMHO, it's the present day "seniors" (aka AARP members and the like) that are preventing a "fix" to the problem. The politicians are afraid of denying or cutting back benefits because they'll lose the elderly vote. Most boomers I talk to don't expect to collect SS, and many are planning on working past their 65th birthday, not necessarily because of necessity.

[KarlInOhio]

Some changes could have been made almost painlessly. The first is to tie the annual increase in SS benefits to the consumer price index (inflation) instead of to average wage growth. That would cut about 0.5%-1% per year on average. Even at only 0.5% over 30 years that would cut nearly half of the expected shortfall in SS taxes.

[webstersII]

What about the agreement Bush signed with Mexico where the illegals will be able to collect SS after they go back to Mexico?

This program will completely bankrupt the system, as alot of those lower-wage workers will be drawing out much more than they put in.

If the AARP wants to get upset about something, they should get upset about illegal immigrants getting SS payments.

[knarf]

bump for later read

[dalereed]

Eliminate SS and Medicare, they are unconstitutional as are all federal social programs.

Put the AARP out of business, they are a pure socialist group.

BTW, im 69 and wouldn't belong to AARP if it was feee.

[babygene]

I think it would be fair that SS benefits be linked with how many kids one has...

My mother got just over $300 a month in SS before she died. She had 8 working kids paying in. The eight of us could have contributed $37.50 a month to give her that level of luxury.

When the boomer's (for what ever reason) decided to have just 2 kids(that's one a peace for both parents), it should have been clear that it was going to put a burden on the kids in their old age.

Then when we (collectively) decided to kill 40 million of the potential workers over the last 30 or so years, what the hell did we expect.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

Now, excuse me, Mr. Samuelson, George W. Bush for six years has tried to do something about this, and he has been rebuked at every turn.

Now, excuse me, Mr. Limbaugh, perhaps you'd care to address one of the changes Duhbya tried to make in 2004 --the Social Security Totalization Agreement with Mexico.

Now, you may think that giving US Social Security benefits to 20+ million Mexican law-breakers is a good thing, but I, as well as many Americans vehemently disagree.

A Mexican illegal alien can apply for, and receive benefits after having worked (illegally) in the US for 6 quarters (18 months). US citizens (you and I) have to work 40 quarters (10 years) before we're eligible to apply.

But that's not the worst of it. Under the terms of Bush's agreement, the Mexican illegal alien can apply for, and receive benefits for his Mexican (national) wife and Mexican (national) children, even if the wife and children have never stepped foot in the USA.

So, not only does George W. Bush want US citizens to give US Social Security benefits to the Mexican law-breakers, he also wants US citizens to pay benefits to the Mexican law-breakers' family back home in Mexico.

So, in spite of your statements to the contrary, it looks like you're still a GOP water boy.

It was ever thus.

[aculeus]

AARP is an organization for grandchild haters.

[Bob Loblaw]

This is why, when ever I get something in the mail inviting me to join AARP, I just cut it up into little pieces and mail it back to them in their postage-paid envelope.

[OKSooner]

I just sent this link to a friend this morning, for the "Non-liberal alternative" to the AARP:

http://www.nascon.org/community/index.php