Posted on 01/09/2007 9:22:33 AM PST by A. Pole
Will America remain American--with roots, culture, and language reaching back to Anglo Saxon Europe--when millions of legal Mexican Americans and illegal Mexican immigrants want to be and remain Mexican? With midterm elections now over, this question will more than likely continue to escape America’s attention as the nation’s ruling elite simply pick up where they left off on illegal immigration. In other words, the sterile debates will continue unabated on border enforcement, amnesty, guest worker proposals, and so on.
But the question or its variant will be scrupulously avoided, since the raising of it would entail breaking a taboo of the new politics of silence as touching race and culture and thereby risk arousing the indignation of the public arbiters of what is acceptable political speech. Yet, race and culture has everything to do with the unity and character of a nation.
America is great in many things, but its continued greatness depends on its citizens being Americans undivided in their allegiance to America. A unity of the many (plures) into one. To avoid the question on race and culture then would be to avoid the threat to America’s national existence posed by the Open Society multiculturalists.
Even more troubling are the manifest circumstances which pointedly indicate that many Mexican Americans at worst support not unity but separatism or irredentism in the "silent reconquista" of America, or at least have divided loyalties decidedly more Mexican than American. In either case, assuming national existence still matters to America’s ruling elite, and that is a suspect assumption, Mexicans en masse are among the worst possible candidates for American citizenship. Open borders advocates and adherents of the melting pot myth may denounce this as racist or at odds with America as a nation of immigrants, but its truth is discovered with but a few facts.
What was characteristic of immigrants and America since its founding no longer holds today. In the history of U.S. immigration prior to the immigration reform act of 1965, most immigrants lived and breathed a desire to be American and to live as Americans. They wanted to speak like Americans, celebrate holidays like Americans, and to love America like Americans. What we see with the Mexican inflow--a phenomenon begun in 1965 when a selective immigration policy was undone by an ill-conceived immigration reform--is a dramatically changed and adversely affected national profile.
First the naked demographics. By the end of 2004, 40.4 million Hispanics, predominantly Mexican, amounted to 14 percent of the total U.S. population. As such, Mexicans now constitute the largest minority group in America. If present trends in fertility rates and chain migration hold, Mexicans will be the dominant majority displacing by mid-century America’s Anglo European culture.
Mexico is a failed country radically different from the United States. At a bare minimum, it harbors a deep resentment toward the West, preeminently America. But this resentment is overcome by the sheer power of living in a real nation with real economic opportunities. In fact, 40% of all Mexicans would, if they could, migrate legally or illegally to the United States. It would be naive to assume, therefore, that Mexicans who find their way to our side of the Rio Grande will necessarily be the "good ones" ready to live productively within the structure of America’s civic institutions.
Some will, to be sure. But their contributions will be minuscule by comparison to those who will not. The reason for this, of course, can be traced to an old proverb about one bad apple spoiling the lot. How many American citizens should be sacrificed to the wanton violence and crime of the drug cartel soldiers who do the bidding of their bosses south of the border? How many areas in American border cities will remain off-limits to Gringos? Look at the crime statistics in the border states and tell those American citizens suffering from violent crime that their government has enacted sound and responsible immigration policies.
Equally naive, if not just illogical, would be to assume that many Mexicans will not be motivated by a Mexican Fifth Column out to remake America. Radically pro-Mexican racist groups may not be a majority, but they are a sizable and vocal minority that should not be casually dismissed. Revanchist claims that America’s Southwest will become a Mexican northern domain is as demographically possible as it is politically irresistible to Mexico and large numbers of Mexican Americans. The latter, under the aegis of Mexico, need not redraw the map of America, but simply demand the recognition of a "distinct" culture and its language. In other words, just use the elite’s multiculturalism to undo the American claim to this area.
Evidence of this Fifth Column abounds. A 2002 Zogby poll revealed that 58% of Mexican nationals believe the American Southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico, while 57% felt they had the right to cross America’s borders at will. It is unprecedented in America’s history to be overwhelmed by millions of illegal aliens invading the United States who, at the same time, claim they are the rightful owners of a land once theirs and are simply coming home to it, rather than arriving as strangers in a new land and having to integrate or gain acceptance.
Or do we really think that America is immune from that which has afflicted Canada with its Quebecers? Other indicators are no less revealing. Shortly after 9/11, when America’s moral clarity and patriotism were visibly high, the Pew Hispanic Center reported that only 21% of Mexican American citizens considered themselves first and foremost as American; 54% considered themselves first and foremost as Mexican, while 24% indicated they were Hispanic or Latino.
That only one out of five Mexican American citizens think of themselves first and foremost as American is shocking enough to be the final argument closing off any further debate about rewarding illegal aliens with amnesty or pathways to citizenship.
Many Mexicans may like America, work in it, pay taxes, and serve in its armed forces, but they will just as stubbornly adhere to their native language and culture. Mexican Americans typically don’t think of themselves as denying allegiance to America because they don’t think of themselves as an American in its cultural sense but as American in its Latin American sense. Mexicans are Mexicanos, Chicanos, Latinos, Hispanics or, finally, Mexican-American, but seldom simply American. To be an American is to be White, a Gringo--a derogation no self-respecting Mexican will abide.
It’s all about racial and national pride; unfortunately it is not for the Latino about U.S. national pride. Hence, a duality of commitment exists and is reinforced by America’s proximity to Mexico and the former’s willingness to promote bilingualism. As millions of Mexican Americans straddle and easily transit two countries joined by contiguous borders, there is simply no overarching necessity to become American when they can remain Mexican. The Mexican government itself, long engaged in irredentism, has leveraged its hold on Mexicans in undermining their allegiance to the United States by granting dual citizenship to all Mexican Americans, whether naturalized or American born citizens of Mexican ancestry.
None of this is lost on Mexicans in America, lured as they are by the Mexican government to retain their loyalties and cultural ties to their native country which "cares" about them. Just how much Mexican Americans are more Mexican than American and have more attachment to Mexico than any attachment they may have to the United States was illustrated by the pro-immigration marches earlier this year. Hundreds of thousands massed on America’s streets, many waving Mexican flags, shouting insults, and displaying obscene gestures against the United States.
Americans were treated to a similar view of Mexican hatred in February 1998, at a soccer match between the United States and Mexico in Los Angeles. A crowd of 91,000 fans, predominantly Mexican, booed the American National Anthem, pelted the U.S. team with bottles, cans. and garbage, and beat up Mexicans who dared to cheer for the American team. Similarly, in 2004, the U.S. Olympic soccer team was playing Canada iMexico, and again the fans jeered at the National Anthem, only this time they passionately chanted ''Osama! Osama!'' These rancorous displays clearly indicate something wrong, not so much with Mexicans--who are clearly being what they want to be--but with America’s ruling elite who have shown no interest in Americans wanting to be and remain what they are.
Aware of this indifference, Mexican illegals and Mexican Americans are energized by America’s weakness in refusing to take itself seriously as a great nation and instead remaining blindly committed to national suicide via massive immigration. Americans have no desire to be morphed into another nation’s likeness, certainly not Mexico’s. But to date, the U.S. government has shown no interest in protecting the original character of the United States as a uniquely white Christian republic with origins in the European West. U.S. citizens are demoralized by a sell out of America’s birthright for a bowl of pottage, specifically a poor man’s pottage offered by low wage employers who have persuaded many a pliant politician that what is good for business is good for America, as if corporate profits (not to mention low value added industry profits) are what it’s all about.
For a race and culture which carved out a nation unequaled in Western civilization, the choice is clear. The United States remains either a distinct nation or it becomes what it never was or what it was never meant to be: a universal nation, an open society. In effect, a non-nation.
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Its already almost too late. El Jefe had a chance to stem the tide but we are well on our way to becoming a hispanic nation. In 150 years we probably will be a hispanic nation with a hispanic culture. Europe will die sooner but we are well on our way too.
according to recent stats, Hispanics are 46 % of the population in Los Angeles. The rest fall far behind in numbers, as do white non-Hispanics. Don't think this will affect public policy? It is already happening nationally, too. So very, very sad.
btt
I think your 150 yr prediction is waaaaaaaaaay too long. The small town I grew up in (all Okies and Arkies) became 97% hispanic in less than 20 yrs. The other 3% are Sikhs.
Alas, the greatest civilization in the history of civiliazations is in decline. It's decline engineered not by outside enemies, but predominantly from within.
illegal immigrant noun [C] (US ALSO illegal alien)
someone who goes to live or work in another country when they do not have the legal right to do this
NOUN: 1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.
"Hispanics are 46 % of the population in Los Angeles"
How many are illegals?
Perhaps 50% ?
If so we should deport them, not grant them a pathway to citizenship.
Mexico is a failed country radically different from the United States. At a bare minimum, it harbors a deep resentment toward the West, preeminently America.
Falls on deaf ears.
It will not remain a distinct nation.
That decision was made some thirty-five years ago when the US started to allow immigration by non-Western, anti-American immigrants who had no intention to ever integrate into American society.
The concept was then adopted that diversity was good for America and even today that notion is constantly being promoted, even by the POTUS. (These people did not read 'The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire')
The destruction of America is done by design so that there won't be one nation outstanding above the rest of the world - a UN concept. A more sophisticated expression for this process is globalism, whereby we are all alike to get together and share each other's misery. Of course, countries like China, India and Russia will never agree to this and will have the best chance of survival.
Prediction: Mexico will outlast the US. It has a border it is willing to defend, it has a common language, culture and religion. All it needs to do now is to get rid of corrupt officials, use its national resources wisely and it will become an OK country.
1) Enforce border curfew-- and I mean signs in big clear legible Spanish that say any intruder crossing the border will be fired upon with the intent to kill.
2) Criminally prosecute employers hiring illegals with hefty fines and prison terms along with the removal of business licenses.
3) Give local law enforcement the power to round up illegals and turn them over to the INS/DHS for deportation.
Sure, we can save the union. But our politicians are ready to give it up instead.
We need to force people to melt into our society. We need to stop this "multi-culturalism" that is making us a divided nation.
I went to a junior high assembly where the spanish speaker said that the "melting pot" was an absurd and dead ideal, and that fealty to your country of origin was both expected and desirable. She thought that maintaining the culture of your fathers was a high calling. About a third of the audience spoke only spanish, and about a third of her speech was in spanish.
She was a Puerto Rican, a citizen, a former member of our armed forces, and was advocating a philosophy that would destroy our country.
While visiting Chicago on June 16, 2004: Vicente Fox said "We are Mexicans that live in our territories and we are Mexicans that live in other territories. In reality, we are 120 million people that live together and are working together to construct a nation."
What you mention is good but it is only a start. We should realize that the concept of promoting diversity creates disunity which results in national suicide. But, as I pointed out, as long as we have members of government promoting diversity and globalism we are on a fast track to extinction as a nation. Globalism should remain commercial and not political.
In ABSTRACT terms, this is the conspiratorial view of what’s going on vis-à-vis the INVASION of the illegals here:
The current alien invasion from the south serves BOTH the elites who run Mexico – and many of the OTHER states of Central and South America -- and the political ruling class who increasingly run the United States:
· It takes pressure off the 60 or so families who control approximately 80% of the wealth in Mexico. Without the northern “safety valve” (the United States) for their poor, those poor MIGHT be inclined to do what America’s early colonists found it necessary to do: Revolt! Parenthetically, that would be MY suggestion for them: Instead of fleeing here – and converting “here” to a larger, more poverty infested version of “there,” they ought to stay there and make “there” into their version of “here,” whatever that would be. Revolutions ARE messy and there are no guarantees that they will produce the desired result. But – according to one T. Jefferson – they are often necessary. Never forget that THIS country was born in revolution!
· For the NAFTA/CAFTA coveting US national ruling class – especially those who, in varying degrees, quest after some sort of One-World utopia run by guess who? – it provides yet another level of insecurity and tension among the indigenous populace which can be used to justify new and more draconian limits to freedom here. Instead of securing the borders, allow millions of illegals to come in and when the natives become alarmed, require a national ID card. “Your papers, please!” will soon become a phrase familiar to all. It’s Mr. Franklin’s trade of freedom for (false) security. It’s also the time-tested Hegelian Dialectic the One-Worlders have successfully worked like a rented mule.
While they occasionally squabble among themselves, the elites of history have ALL had one thing in common: They will do ANYTHING to remain in charge. And throughout that history, except for the 230 year-old experiment in freedom called “America,” most of the men who have walked the earth have lived as slaves to these elites whether they call themselves kings, emperors, potentates, sultans, czars – or presidents.
Get ready, folks. Unless some SERIOUS changes are made and the handful of Americans who CARE about liberty get involved, that history will almost certainly repeat here.
Now for the SPECIFICS of the matter:
My take on Bush's role in all of this is:
1. His long and apparently positive experience with the large hispanic population in Texas is largely responsible for his inaction on this alien invasion. And why wouldn't HIS experience with them be positive as he traveled in the highest, best-educated circles among them, not the Hispanic gangbangers and pine-straw spreaders...
2. His brother Jeb is married to a native of Mexico and his nieces and nephews are mixed blood. And before you scream "ethnocentric bigot" at me, there's nothing inherently wrong with that). But that fact -- and the first item -- DOES predispose him to a warm and fuzzy feeling for folks from south of the Rio Grande.
And if -- in some strange and metastasizing American desire for a new royal family dynasty -- Jeb should win the White House, I'd bet that HIS activities toward this alien invasion will make W's behavior look like a warm-up exercise.
Any vestige of white European culture will be a distant memory.
So when will Spain take back Mexico?
The creeping balkanization described in this thread was the main theme of Chittum's book, which was one of the early discussion points that led to the creation of this ping list. CWII Ping!
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