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Schwarzenegger: Everyone must have health insurance
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 8 January 2007 | Steven Harmon

Posted on 01/08/2007 1:13:09 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture

Schwarzenegger: Everyone must have health insurance

GOVERNOR UNVEILS PLAN TO OVERHAUL HEALTH CARE

By Steven Harmon
MediaNew Sacramento Bureau

SACRAMENTO - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger unveiled a sweeping $12 billion health care plan today that would require all Califonrians to have health insurance.

In remarks that he delivered by video conference from Los Angeles, Schwarzenegger insisted covering all Californians was the key to lowering the exploding costs of health care.

``We pay higher deductibles, higher cost for treatment, higher premiums and higher co-pays,'' he said. ``Prices for health care and insurance are rising twice as fast as inflation, twice as fast as wages. That is a terrible drain on everyone and it is a drain on our economy. My solution is that everyone in California must have insurance. If you can't afford it, the state will help you buy it, but you must be insured.''

Among the highlights: The governor would require employers to provide insurance or pay into a state fund that would help people buy their own insurance; he would require insurers to cover everyone, regardless of medical condition; he would require 85 percent of insurance premiums be spent on patient care; he would substantially increase the MediCal reimbursement for doctors.

He acknowledged how controversial his proposal to cover illegal immigrants is, but said it was better than the alternative -- paying for their expensive stays in emergency rooms.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; arnoldlegacy; arnoldonhealthcare; calhealthcare; govwatch; healthcare; illegalaliens; insurance; schwarzenegger; scializedmedicine; socializedmedicine; universalhealthcare
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To: Mojave
It's something alright. Maybe Arnold could also put billboards up on our southern border saying "Come and get it!"

I think that sign is already up. It is up in every state in the Union.

41 posted on 01/08/2007 3:26:31 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

A simple answer would be NO. Arnie needs to practice saying it.


42 posted on 01/08/2007 3:33:45 PM PST by Chili Girl
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To: CounterCounterCulture

That's what I'm talkin' about!


43 posted on 01/08/2007 3:39:07 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: CounterCounterCulture
While I think it's un-American to force people to have health insurance. Economically speaking, the simple requirement on private companies to offer insurance to anyone (like how it's done for auto insurance) would on the whole contribute to somewhat lower premiums, and by extension medical costs.

However, I think the two biggest problems in health care are 1) Fraud, and 2) The United States is the medical R&D engine for the entire world. That is, we spend an enormous ammount of money in medical R&D (pharmaceuticals, medical devices, surgical procedures etc.), whereas the rest of the world beneifits from our knowledge, and then kicks their feet up and only has to focus on "health care delivery".

44 posted on 01/08/2007 3:43:24 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: TortReformer
Conservatives warned Arnold was NOT a conservative. Those warnings were shouted down on this site by movie-star worshippers.

It didn't matter then.

Does it matter now?

45 posted on 01/08/2007 3:52:27 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: LWalk18

What will be the consequences for not having insurance?

Your property - bank account, 401k, home, business - will be seized.

Fascism is at a very advanced stage in California. Your property belongs to the state in order to advance the Marxist common good, as defined by the state.

In 1939 a book was published titled "The Vampire Economy," relating all the problems businesses had dealing with the German socialist state. What you hear today are the same opinions that were voiced in 1939.


46 posted on 01/08/2007 3:55:59 PM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: calcowgirl
""More than 60 emergency rooms have closed over the past decade because they didn't want to keep treating people without insurance."

How about they closed because they couldn't AFFORD to treat people for free..At least be honest, Arnold.

sw

47 posted on 01/08/2007 3:59:30 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife ("One Nation, One Standard")
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To: right-wingin_It; CounterCounterCulture
Of course, I'm not saying that the state has to be involved in any way. I'm just talking about the economic concept of a simple requirement for people to have insurace (through private companies)...And ideally, to remove it from the employer-based systems. (The cost that the employer normally puts in could be put back into the employye's salary) This will allow people to freely network..and most importantly, the health insurance market will expand. I don't know what the percentage of uninsured is...but if its like 30-40%, the industry has been ignoring half a huge part of the market.

What we have now are islands of people, separated, and paying through the nose. I'm not advocating to take anything away from anyone..I'm not advocating for the government to regulate it or be in the buisiness of supplying it...I'm just saying that theire are artifical barriers that makes the industry inefficient

But I still do have the problem with the government

requiring us to have insurance. If any american doesn't want to have health insurance, they shouldn't have to...(car insurance is different on that regard though..since you put others at risk).

48 posted on 01/08/2007 4:03:45 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Everyone must have water too. Why not give Universal Water to the entire state?


49 posted on 01/08/2007 4:04:43 PM PST by sappy
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To: right-wingin_It
If any american doesn't want to have health insurance, they shouldn't have to...

The problem is that those who don't want to have health insurance will still demand that they be treated in case of a catastrophic event. People without health insurance are essentially free-riders.

50 posted on 01/08/2007 4:13:11 PM PST by Aikonaa
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Conservatives warned Arnold was NOT a conservative. Those warnings were shouted down on this site by movie-star worshippers. It didn't matter then. Does it matter now?

The same people who were posing "Rove you magnificent bastard" photos everywhere (until Nov 7th)

Harrier Miers for SCOTUS = "Rove you magnificent bastard"

No Child Left Behind = "Rove you magnificent bastard"

Medicare part D = "Rove you magnificent bastard"

Amnesty = "Rove you magnificent bastard"

51 posted on 01/08/2007 4:13:53 PM PST by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TUAN_JIM

posing = posting


52 posted on 01/08/2007 4:14:32 PM PST by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Aikonaa
The problem is that those who don't want to have health insurance will still demand that they be treated in case of a catastrophic event. People without health insurance are essentially free-riders.

You got a point.

53 posted on 01/08/2007 4:48:30 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: CounterCounterCulture

"Let me be clear about something,'' he said. ``There is no debate about whether to provide medical care for people who are in California illegally."

The governor's plan would also essentially cap the profits of insurance companies by requiring insurers to put at least 85 percent of their premium revenues into patient care rather than profit and administration. He said mandatory insurance would benefit insurers by adding as many as 5 million new customers (daily).


54 posted on 01/08/2007 4:59:14 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: pgkdan

Can we have another recall???


55 posted on 01/08/2007 5:02:22 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: BMIC

It would have to be a very, very , very bad something wrong with me for me to move to California to try and make it better.


56 posted on 01/08/2007 5:05:44 PM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: BMIC

Wanna buy our house?

:)


57 posted on 01/08/2007 5:09:00 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Schwarzenegger insisted covering all Californians was the key to lowering the exploding costs of health care.

And the key to raising the exploding costs of government.

58 posted on 01/08/2007 5:09:01 PM PST by lowbridge ("I wonder if he's in touch with the critics out there, like Matt Damon, the actor" -Chris Matthews)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Everyone must have health insurance

Everyone must have groceries.

Everyone must have a house.

Everyone must have a six figure bank account.

59 posted on 01/08/2007 5:11:19 PM PST by lowbridge ("I wonder if he's in touch with the critics out there, like Matt Damon, the actor" -Chris Matthews)
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To: lowbridge

I'd like a new (paid for, of course) SUV.

Thanks!


60 posted on 01/08/2007 5:28:03 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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