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Giuliani fears ex-wife will hit presidential bid
London Times ^ | 1/7/07 | London Times

Posted on 01/07/2007 11:46:24 AM PST by wagglebee

THERE is one woman who could cause Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor, more problems than Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House: she is Donna Hanover, his second wife, writes Sarah Baxter.

Hanover, an actress and broadcaster, was enraged by Giuliani’s flagrant infidelity towards the end of their 18-year marriage and the divorce case was vicious. Giuliani’s advisers fear that she could be a loose cannon in the 2008 campaign.

Giuliani was acclaimed as the “mayor of America” for his heroic role during the attacks on September 11, 2001 and is revered for his leadership. At the time he was living in the spare room of an apartment belonging to gay friends after Hanover forced him out of Gracie Mansion, the official residence.

Hanover refused to confirm that she would vote for Giuliani as mayor of New York even when she was married to him. “What kind of wife is that?” Raoul Felder, Giuliani’s lawyer, fumed. “She’s essentially saying she’s not going to vote for him.”

Hanover once stood outside a shower at Gracie Mansion, expecting to confront Judith Nathan, Giuliani’s mistress, now his third wife. In the event, a startled golfing friend of Giuliani’s emerged.

Hanover was also accused of a lack of sympathy while the former mayor was battling prostate cancer, by banishing him to a spare bedroom and exercising noisily on a treadmill at 5am.

New Yorkers relished the details of Giuliani’s larger-than-life personal story. But conservative “values voters” could be different, as Giuliani’s own aides noted in a 140-page memo leaked last week by supporters of a rival candidate.

The campaign dossier suggested that Hanover could be one of several potentially “insurmountable” vulnerabilities that could cause him to drop out of the race. It was an embarrassing start to a campaign that is not yet officially under way.

Giuliani’s record in fighting crime and terrorism has placed him at the top of several polls for the 2008 Republican nomination, edging out Senator John McCain in popular support. But the party base may be turned off by his support for abortion, immigration, gun control and gay rights (although not gay marriage). It is their votes that he needs to secure the nomination.

“It would be one thing if Giuliani could say, ‘I’m a strong social conservative in my private life’, but he can’t even say that,” said Ramesh Ponnuru, a conservative commentator and author of The Party of Death, an attack on social liberalism. “It’s not just the fact of his multiple marriages, it is the way the Hanover marriage melted down. It was operatic.”

When Giuliani met Hanover on a blind date in the early 1980s, his first marriage to Regina, his second cousin, was already over. Hanover, who went on to appear in the television series Ally McBeal, was a glamorous soulmate who seemed to enjoy the spotlight as much as he did.

They had two children, Andrew, 21, and Caroline, 17, but in 1996 Hanover stopped calling herself by his last name and a year later Vanity Fair magazine said that he was having an “intimate relationship” with a senior member of his staff.

In 2000, without telling Hanover first, Giuliani announced at a press conference that he was separating from her. She retaliated by accusing him of being unfaithful with the employee, but he was already with Nathan.

Maggie Gallagher, a family values campaigner, was outraged by Giuliani’s “scummy” performance, accusing him of making Bill Clinton “look good as a husband and father”.

New Yorkers learnt during the divorce case that their cancer- afflicted mayor was temporarily impotent and Hanover demanded a huge settlement, including £760 a month to care for Goalie, the family’s golden retriever.

Felder struck back, accusing Hanover of being an “uncaring mother” who was “howling like a stuck pig”.

In the end Giuliani, who was beginning to earn big consultancy fees after September 11, agreed to a settlement of $6.8m to avoid the full horror of a court case.

Hanover has married Ed Oster, her university sweetheart, and written a book, My Boyfriend’s Back, about rekindling an old romance. Even if she stays mum, there is enough in the public domain to rattle conservatives. Yet however vicious the personal attacks on Giuliani, they are unlikely to dent his reputation for competence. He did, after all, handle the September 11 attacks while bunking with gay friends in the midst of an affair and a divorce battle.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008election; corrupt; donnahanover; exwife; giuliani; hitpiece; letch; nothanksrudy; rino; toomanywives
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To: Norman Bates
That's not sound conservative thought. That's libertarianism.

So you're more concerned about what adults are doing in their bedrooms rather than limiting government and lowering taxes.

If that makes me a Loserdopian, or Liberal-tarian, so be it.

341 posted on 01/07/2007 4:57:22 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: wagglebee

Who, at this point, do you wish is the nominee? McCain? Romney?


342 posted on 01/07/2007 5:04:30 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

At this point, I honestly have no idea, but I don't want Giuliani, McCain or Romney.


343 posted on 01/07/2007 5:06:25 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: BonnieJ

The American way to address the criminals is to neuter the criminals, not trash the liberty of the law abiding and decent. Why is this so damned hard for you city slickers to understand? I reckon we could reduce rapes, using the same path, couldn't we?
Don't you even care about the decent citizens who give up their self defense rights?


344 posted on 01/07/2007 5:09:03 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: calcowgirl
An intelligent answer when on the dock I must say. Keep some running room. Here is the Field Poll from last year with registered California voters:


Which represents your view about state laws
regarding same sex couples:

              
                  Allow      Allow           Grant No   
                 to Marry   Civil Unions     Legal                  
                                             Reognition

Registered voters  36%        33%            27%
Democrats          50%        28%            19%
Republicans        18%        33%            44%
Non-partisans      33%        43%            19%

345 posted on 01/07/2007 5:09:38 PM PST by Torie
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To: paulat

"Most conservatives don't want Rudy.

I'm SO glad my vote cancels out yours!!!"

True conservatives don't vote for former Liberal Party candidates; but to some I guess winning is what's important, even if it means selling one's soul to do so.


346 posted on 01/07/2007 5:12:13 PM PST by BW2221
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To: wagglebee

I remember Donna Hanover from a food show I used to watch on occasion, In Food Today. It was pretty terrible, but I only watched for David Rosengarten. She always seemed like she was really P.O.'ed about something.


347 posted on 01/07/2007 5:12:33 PM PST by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: BW2221
but to some I guess winning is what's important, even if it means selling one's soul to do so.

You folks brought on Nancy Pelosi...I didn't....

348 posted on 01/07/2007 5:14:39 PM PST by paulat
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

All the problems with the dole would go away tomorrow, if the dole went away first.


349 posted on 01/07/2007 5:15:08 PM PST by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: wagglebee

I could care less what Hanover, known best as Rudy's ex and an actress in The Vagina Monologues, has to say. Both seem to be at fault in the marriage so she shouldn't throw stones.


350 posted on 01/07/2007 5:25:13 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: wagglebee
Rudy and Slutty Judy.
John McCain and Cindy the Pain.
Hillary and the Rapist in Chief.

Who's next?

351 posted on 01/07/2007 5:27:58 PM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: paulat
"You folks brought on Nancy Pelosi...I didn't...."

More Macacca from the Free Republic Left Wing Support Faction.

352 posted on 01/07/2007 5:35:50 PM PST by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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To: UWconservative
What kind of husband cheats on his wife frequently over 18 years? Then notifies her of the divorce via a press conference? There are plenty of presidential candidates who don't treat women like trash.

It's entirely possible she is a loathsome woman who alienated him. Freepers continue to make the mistake that a guy who cheats is in the wrong: he certainly behaved badly, but it's entirely possible he had a terrible mate at home and sought affection elsewhere.

353 posted on 01/07/2007 5:38:20 PM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: HitmanLV
"he certainly behaved badly, but it's entirely possible he had a terrible mate at home and sought affection elsewhere."

He behaved "badly", but with a possible good reason.

Did you forget the sarcasm tag?

354 posted on 01/07/2007 5:46:38 PM PST by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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To: Afronaut
No sarcasm. A cheating spouse isn't automatically the bad guy, and a cheated-upon spouse isn't automatically the good guy.

Every day loathsome spouses get rejected for better companions. It's difficult to characterize that as a bad thing.
355 posted on 01/07/2007 5:50:39 PM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: JHBowden
Trial by fire during the primary season is the only way to know. And unlike FR, most Republicans in 3D space want someone who can win.

Nice try.

Rudy's a good guy and he's been a great team player; he's just got too much baggage.

This kind of stuff even matters to some democrats.

356 posted on 01/07/2007 5:51:02 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: ansel12

What the heck are you talking about? Link to what? Any source to what? Do you speak english?


357 posted on 01/07/2007 5:56:18 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader, contribute to the upkeep of FreeRepublic)
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To: trumandogz

Sure he lived with a gay couple.

So, what, he has cooties now?


358 posted on 01/07/2007 5:58:52 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: Torie

Oh and don't forget the issue of the NAU. Speaking as future Supreme Emperor, I don't want that issue off the table anytime soon.


359 posted on 01/07/2007 6:06:32 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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