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Looking for Mr. Right(Dick Cheney maybe...)
Time ^ | Jan. 4, 2007 | KAREN TUMULTY

Posted on 01/07/2007 9:51:28 AM PST by kellynla

It wasn't so long ago that conservatives believed that George Bush's presidency would usher in a political realignment that would last for decades. But as the right looks forward to the next election, something close to panic is setting in. Surveying the leading G.O.P. contenders for 2008, direct-mail guru Richard Viguerie pronounces "not a one of them is worthy of support from conservatives." Says Craig Shirley, a public relations executive who represents many conservative groups and who has written a book on the Reagan revolution: "There's anger, there's angst, there's dismay in the conservative movement." Some activists, Shirley adds, have even begun talking quietly among themselves about forming a third party.

All that worry might seem premature, given that the Iowa caucuses are still a year away. But the race for the Republican nomination is already taking a shape that alarms many conservatives, especially the Evangelicals who were so crucial to Bush's re-election in 2004. None of the top three potential Republican candidates considering a bid to succeed Bush has a record that makes the right entirely comfortable. Senator John McCain originally opposed Bush's tax cuts, supports looser immigration policies, voted against a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage and was an architect of the deal under which Senate Democrats retained their right to filibuster Bush's judicial nominees. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is in favor of gun control, abortion rights and same-sex civil unions. And outgoing Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney espoused liberal views on gay rights and abortion when he was running for office in Massachusetts, though he has disavowed them as he has moved into national politics. Many conservatives had high hopes for Virginia's George Allen and Pennsylvania's Rick Santorum--until they lost their Senate re-election races last year.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: conservatism; conservatives; gop; potus
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To: kellynla

Your were SOOOO successful last election.


141 posted on 01/07/2007 12:50:50 PM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: Miss Didi

They campaigned as moderates.


142 posted on 01/07/2007 12:51:35 PM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: kellynla

But charm surely helps, especially if one is a Republican. Necessary if not sufficient. About Carter, the point is that he came from nowhere, a dark horse. A more recent example was Perot. Candidates can catch fire. So wait and see.


143 posted on 01/07/2007 12:54:50 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Hildy

I recall many campaigned as pro-life, pro-military...but, whatever.


144 posted on 01/07/2007 12:56:32 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: kellynla

this is easy for me.....


http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html


145 posted on 01/07/2007 1:03:40 PM PST by mo
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To: Miss Didi

Who says moderates can't be pro-life or pro-military. THEY VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS. If the choice was between a pro-life Republican or a pro-life Dem..they voted for the Dem. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? More people are identifying with the world DEMOCRAT. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to see that. Alot of new voters came out and they voted Dem. That's my point...we are a different country. So we're going to have to give the moderates a REASON to vote for the Reps. I'm praying their candidate will be Hillary, because I believe that's the only way we can win.


146 posted on 01/07/2007 1:03:43 PM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: kellynla
Finally a writer who talks about the Real Politik of the Republican Party, even if its in a liberal MSM rag.But those are the only ones the soft cheeses at the RNC seem to be reading lately.

Great Article, and keep 'em coming. We conservatives need to take back the Republican Party, or consign the paarty to the same category as the Know Nothing Party, which they are only 6 or 7 months away from becoming.

The salvation of the Republican party lies in its conservative base and its principles, not in RINO meanderings towards,"moderate" conservatism, which in time of two wars:

1) a clash between Islamofascist culture and the West,

2)and demographic illegal alien warfare,

is the same as the Night of the Living Dead to all conservatives, who comprise about 30% of the entire electorate.

If the RNC continues in its sureptitious policy to out, disempower, and abandon men and women like Tom DeLay, they will never get that 30% back, and have consigned themselves to irretrievable infamy at a time when our nation needs conservatives most.

147 posted on 01/07/2007 1:06:10 PM PST by Candor7
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To: Oldexpat
My thinking on this is exactly the same as yours. If a RINO ticket is chosen for the presidency, I will write in the name of a conservative on my ballot. And then I will watch Hillery and her mavins ruin the country until the RNC returns to its conservative base, or ceases to exist , with a 3rd party Conservative alternative evolving to the fore.
148 posted on 01/07/2007 1:11:22 PM PST by Candor7
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To: Maelstorm

Cheney/Gingrich?


149 posted on 01/07/2007 1:11:23 PM PST by texpat72 (<><)
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To: kellynla

Huckabee and his wife don't have the temperment to get through a presidential run. They get a little nasty when things don't go their way.


150 posted on 01/07/2007 1:14:10 PM PST by des
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To: mo

Mark who?
the last Sanford I ever heard of owned a junk yard. LOL


151 posted on 01/07/2007 1:23:58 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Hildy
I beg to differ that people are flocking to the Dems. I think Repubs hold their candidates to a higher standard...we expect them to be conservative and act accordingly and if they don't, they get the boot. And that is what happened. Rush had a very good explanation recently that was posted here on FR.
152 posted on 01/07/2007 1:28:22 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: HawaiianGecko
I would expect Rudy to get religion and not veto legislation his own party passed regardless of his own personal convictions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Rudy is a RINO. He cannot energize 30% of the US electorate which is conservative.Its too late not to undertand that the USA is divided by a cultural war in the fields of education, 2nd amendment , and 1st amendment rights, taxation and the economy,military spending, not to mention the environment. Today,abortion is way down on that list because so called moderate Republicans have become conservative Republicans in droves. The great moderate wash of the Republican party, predicted by the RINOs has not happened, and will not happen by 2008, if ever. The opposite has happened.

The RNC has already alienated its conservative base, without a conservative candidate, the conservatives will not vote or will write in the name of a conservative candidate in 2008, and Nov. 2006 was a message.

No conservative will vote for a RINO candidate, just because he wears a red tie. The gang of 14's "RINO" members abandoned the conservative legislative agenda, and cut the throat of every conservative politician that might offer them competition for the presidential nomination, thinking that there would be enough moderate Republicans to safely elect them as president. John McCain has become a pariah because of what he has done, and Rudy Giuliani is the laughing stock of conservatives, a poofter when a president like Reagan is needed.

The RINOs and their RNC soft cheeses were wrong, if anything ,more moderate Republicans have joined the conservative camp than anyone would have guessed, even months ago.

Only a died-in-the-wool, authenticated, bona fide, straight up conservative presidential ticket will bring the conservatives back to vote Republican, and there will be no Republican president in 2008 if that does not happen.

RINOplasty has taken on a whole new meaning.

153 posted on 01/07/2007 1:29:42 PM PST by Candor7
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To: Hildy
"We are moderate. And we must proceed as such."

I am not moderate so you are not speaking for me.

154 posted on 01/07/2007 1:41:54 PM PST by maxter
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To: kellynla

Oh it wouldn't surprise me at all if Cheney does run. I think he has enough of an ego to believe that he's the best man for the job. But I have no doubt that the Democrats will have a field day with his past health issues as well as his policies.


155 posted on 01/07/2007 2:37:56 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

don't care what the 'Rats think about him...
not like they're gonna be voting for him or anyone else on the GOP ticket.

But you put Cheney up against Clinton and Cheney will wipe up the floor with her wide arse!!!

It's the GOP & registered Independents who will RUN to the polls come November '08 to vote for Dick Cheney. PERIOD


156 posted on 01/07/2007 2:45:59 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

The fate of the republican nominee in '08 rests in the hands of gwb.

If he "stay's the course" by continuing to govern as he has the past 6 years, the next guy will pay the price.

If he signs the "amnesty" bill, it's over.

JMHO


157 posted on 01/07/2007 2:51:43 PM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006)
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To: kellynla
It's the GOP & registered Independents who will RUN to the polls come November '08 to vote for Dick Cheney. PERIOD

Sure they will.

158 posted on 01/07/2007 2:58:35 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: EternalVigilance
There is such a candidate. He is running. It's up to him to build up enough support and garner enough name recognition in the next 6-8 months to have a shot.
159 posted on 01/07/2007 3:20:46 PM PST by Lexinom (Duncan Hunter 2008 - www.peacethroughstrengthpac.com)
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To: Hildy
We are moderate. And we must proceed as such.

So say the delusional voices in the heads of the Schwarzeneggar, Bloomberg, Giuliani, McCain, Romney Republicans.

160 posted on 01/07/2007 3:28:56 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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