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To: HawaiianGecko
I would expect Rudy to get religion and not veto legislation his own party passed regardless of his own personal convictions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Rudy is a RINO. He cannot energize 30% of the US electorate which is conservative.Its too late not to undertand that the USA is divided by a cultural war in the fields of education, 2nd amendment , and 1st amendment rights, taxation and the economy,military spending, not to mention the environment. Today,abortion is way down on that list because so called moderate Republicans have become conservative Republicans in droves. The great moderate wash of the Republican party, predicted by the RINOs has not happened, and will not happen by 2008, if ever. The opposite has happened.

The RNC has already alienated its conservative base, without a conservative candidate, the conservatives will not vote or will write in the name of a conservative candidate in 2008, and Nov. 2006 was a message.

No conservative will vote for a RINO candidate, just because he wears a red tie. The gang of 14's "RINO" members abandoned the conservative legislative agenda, and cut the throat of every conservative politician that might offer them competition for the presidential nomination, thinking that there would be enough moderate Republicans to safely elect them as president. John McCain has become a pariah because of what he has done, and Rudy Giuliani is the laughing stock of conservatives, a poofter when a president like Reagan is needed.

The RINOs and their RNC soft cheeses were wrong, if anything ,more moderate Republicans have joined the conservative camp than anyone would have guessed, even months ago.

Only a died-in-the-wool, authenticated, bona fide, straight up conservative presidential ticket will bring the conservatives back to vote Republican, and there will be no Republican president in 2008 if that does not happen.

RINOplasty has taken on a whole new meaning.

153 posted on 01/07/2007 1:29:42 PM PST by Candor7
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To: Candor7; Hildy
Hildy is right.

"Conservatives" who stayed home last time gave us an unwitting (and dimwitted) preview of the likely outcome of '08. Because too many weren't unwilling to compromise with an unpalatable set of choices, the balance of power shifted. Those who shouted "I refuse to vote for a "RINO" (codespeak for anyone they don't like)" treated themselves and their neighbors to the taste of defeat.

"Rudy is a RINO. He cannot energize 30% of the US electorate which is conservative."

Sorry, but there may be 30% of the electorate who are Republicans, but conservatives are but a portion of that number (remember the GOP as the "big tent party"?). Now it may or may not be true that Rudy can energize enough support to win the race (He definitely isn't my first choice!), but unless we suspend our inter-party differences, no one that we put up will beat the Dhimmicrats. They ARE energized after their "big win", and are gullible enough to believe that they are "fated" to win.

"No conservative will vote for a RINO candidate, just because he wears a red tie."

You can count me among them. I steadfastly refuse to vote for ANYONE because they wear a red tie (I hate them!), but I'd rather vote for a "RINO" before throwing my vote away (or giving my country away).

The problem is that by the time we eliminate everyone that anyone calls "RINO", what we end up with is UNELECTABLE. Sad fact, but fact nonetheless.

Put up the very best that you can, promote the heck outta him, but don't pout and have a tantrum if (more like when if he's too extreme) he doesn't survive the primary.

Who knows - I may even hold myself to my own advice and (gasp!) pull the lever if McPain gets the nod (I can't believe I said that!).

"RINOplasty has taken on a whole new meaning."

Nope. Still means the same thing - cutting off your nose...
162 posted on 01/07/2007 3:35:31 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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