Posted on 01/06/2007 7:44:37 PM PST by blam
BRAVA....great attitude and great post! :-)
Did you notice that with a few noble exceptions, the people bashing you and also engaging in talk of luxury conspicuous consumption items like gems and furs are women?
I have far more respect for a 'pro' than I do for someone offers long-term leases on their genitals and pretty face as a socially appropriate cover for their cupidity.
But it IS a ruse.
That you choose to either ignore that fact because you like diamonds or buy into the propaganda doesn't mean it's not a ruse NOR is it an insult.
It's like buying the insurance from rental car agencies when your VISA agreement and your own car insurance will cover your damages. If you want it, that's fine for you. But it's no less a ruse.
Ruse is a description of the situation not a moral or intellectual judgment of you in particular. That you (and the other women defending the myths) are taking Russ to task just shows that he and others in this thread have hit on an uncomfortable (or inconvenient) truth ;P
Disregarding a "civil war", there have been and are conflicts concerned with mining that stone..At least from what I've understood..
I.E, from a 2002 GEM article
"At Mererani, South African Gem (Afgem) is accused of human rights abuses and attempting to monopolise tanzanite mining.
Miners have been shot dead or chased by dogs. Afgem says it is defending its interests against trespassers. It certifies the tanzanire it sells to guarantee the gems' authenticity. Although Minerals and Energy Minister Maokola-Majogo has told Afgem to stop doing so, it continues the practise, claiming it is an effective market strategy."
sw
I do so love the "Moisonnite" (sp), and was wondering if it was worth the price? I love the "fire"..
sw
Long, long ago, designers made "deals" with Queens, then with socialites, and later on stage actresses. People tried to copy the styles, as best they could and later, bought knockoffs. The Empress Eugenie made a certain style of hat famous, the then Prince of Wales ( Queen Elizabeth II uncle ) influenced what men wore, all over the world, and when people couldn't afford to buy the same kind of clothes of hats or jewels, they copied hair styles.
But yes, what you said about today is true; especially how absolutely UGLY so many of the clothes are!
Is Moisssanite "worth" the price? How should I know? Was your car worth the price you paid? Your house? What is it that "fire" worth to you personally?
That's not a cop out. Anything is "worth" the price agreed to by a willing buyer and seller. I think it's horrendously overpriced and wouldn't buy it myself for several reasons. If it's "flash for the cash" you're after there's no way to beat cubic zirconia. It's the best diamond simulant to date and has plenty of dispersion/"fire" (which is one way I can tell it from diamond). You can get a beauty for under $10.
The feeling is mutual...I'm more than delighted that my husband is nothing at all like you, but then, if he were, I would never have married him! LOL
You can sell diamond jewelry to many different outlets and if the piece is by a well known craftsman/store and/or has an interesting provenance, you WILL get more for it than what you bought it for. But that means that the piece you are selling is not new.
Nope, diamonds ( or any other gem stones ) are not the equivalent of a "pet rock".
"Please learn FR's posting rules and then abide by them."
"The feeling is mutual...I'm more than delighted that my husband is nothing at all like you, but then, if he were, I would never have married him! LOL"
Oh, so it's OK for you but not me? You tell me to "abide by the rules," then you go ahead and say the same thing back to me? Is that a double standard because you're a woman and I'm a man?
I suggest you find some ditzy women's site where you can bash guys who don't fall for the diamond ruse. Maybe "Teen Girl" or some such thing.
And that little "LOL" you add after your insults really shows your mentality. What the hell does it mean? "Lots of laughs"? I guess you really crack yourself up, eh.
If debeers let them all hit the market we would be paving our driveways with them. Diamonds are just shiny gravel.
Tanzanite is also alleged to be controlled by cabals with ties to terrorism. Haven't researched it, though!
Yes, it's pricey, that's why I wanted YOUR expert opinion. So now, I'll just wait for Home shopping to advertise their cool CZ earrings and go for it! Thanks, sw
The color change was not "blinding" and what turned me off the stone, was the color. I liked the greeny color well enough, but hated the change. And since I bought the ring prior to your date of when "good" synthetics and heated/treated stones came on the market, neither of those things would apply to that stone.
My old family jeweler, who did the family's appraisals, was also a certified gemologist.
I do know about the labs you mentioned. I have a friend who took classes ( I don't remember where now, but she did get certified ) and caught Tiffany in a fraud, because of what she knew. She had taken a piece into them to be fixed, and someone removed the main diamond from her piece and replaced it with a junky stone. And yes, they DID make good on it, when she complained!
Yes, I noticed that.
You have been denigrating women since you began to post on this thread. You have engaged in behavior which is against FR's posting rules.
I haven't impugned nor denigrated men; not once. OTOH, it appears that you are incapable of posting without hurling childish insults about.
I suggest that YOU go find some other site to post to...I'm staying right here on FR!
You claim I used profanity, but I don't recall any such thing. Please cite a post number where I used profanity, or quit lying about me.
And you claim that I have been "denigrating women" on this thread. Are you implying that I must accept baloney as fact when it comes from a woman? If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
It seems that women are much more likely than men to fall for the diamond ruse. That's no surprise, considering that the original ruse was to convince women that their man's love for them is measured by the cost of a diamond. Since men are the direct victims of this ruse, they are naturally less likely to fall for it. But women are the victims too when they miss out on a chance to invest in a home due to the cost of a diamond, for example.
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