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To: CottShop
The President, by calling islam a religion of peace and declaring a war on terror, hasn't exactly help the cause.

Before it is over, we must clearly define this enemy and design and implement a comprehensive strategy to win it.

We are certainly not at war with all muslims but we are at war with that aspect of islam that espouses jihad and seeks to establish a global caliphate (and unfortunately that is most of true islam).

IMO, this war hasn't even begun.

7 posted on 01/06/2007 11:29:21 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: Dark Skies
The President, by calling islam a religion of peace and declaring a war on terror, hasn't exactly help the cause.

IMO, Short term yes; long term no. When the west is truely threatened with WMD and truely decides to fight, the Islam is ROP concept will already have been disproven, necessitating the brutal total war that will be required to win.

9 posted on 01/06/2007 11:34:45 AM PST by IonInsights
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To: Dark Skies
The President, by calling islam a religion of peace and declaring a war on terror, hasn't exactly help the cause. Before it is over, we must clearly define this enemy and design and implement a comprehensive strategy to win it. We are certainly not at war with all muslims but we are at war with that aspect of islam that espouses jihad and seeks to establish a global caliphate (and unfortunately that is most of true islam).

This is why the political situation is so difficult. We have been at war at home between people wishing to deny the existence of God and silence all those who believe in the God who is acknowledged in our Founding documents, and another faction who, incredibly, believes our nation can continue to prosper if we eliminate war, close all our overseas bases and de-fund the military. And we are being attacked from abroad by those who seek to impose their religion on the world. What a freakin' disaster, and the Supreme Court is to blame.

12 posted on 01/06/2007 11:37:24 AM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: Dark Skies

Well, as much as I and others agree that Islam is Evil, the President has the responsibility for our protection, and if he were to state that Islam in it's present form is violent, he would have caused us all much danger- I'm sure he doesn't believe for a second that the Koran of Today is a peaceful book at all, but what else can he do but be diplomatic by stating that there ARE good Muslims who eschew violence and codemn the violence spoken of in the Koran. That is fact- Early Arabs practiced a peaceful preIslam religion that respected everyone- but Muhammad came along and forced their religion to accept his whacko ideals of rape,murder,pedophilia, the spread of the Koran at the point of a sword etc. Many Arabs today I'm sure want their original religion back but are helpless to stand up agaisnt Radical muslims today http://sacredscoop.com


13 posted on 01/06/2007 11:38:25 AM PST by CottShop
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To: Dark Skies

completely agree.


16 posted on 01/06/2007 11:45:09 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Dark Skies
"IMO, this war hasn't even begun."

Agree. Despite the fact that our current forces are stretched, when it comes to warmaking our nation hasn't broken a sweat.

I sometimes wonder if the rats would be in favor of winning if flight 93 had rammed the Capital building rather than a field in PA.
28 posted on 01/06/2007 12:10:38 PM PST by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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To: Dark Skies

Something to consider. In WWII we went to war against Germany and Japan, not Hitler and the Japanese Emperor. I don't know if it's possible to win a war while trying to separate the 'good' from the 'bad' elements of the populace. That to me seems to be the point at which the war becomes politicized - whoops - we lose.


35 posted on 01/06/2007 1:10:09 PM PST by ArmyTeach
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