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McCain Won't Excite Conservatives, Says Former Liberal
News from Agape Press ^ | 1/3/07 | Chad Groening

Posted on 01/06/2007 7:31:11 AM PST by Antoninus

(AgapePress) - An author and self-professed former liberal says he doesn't think Arizona Senator John McCain is going to excite conservatives as the 2008 "presidential sweepstakes" kick into high gear. He believes there are a couple of alternatives who might be more attractive to the conservative voting bloc.

Political analyst Keith Thompson is the author of Leaving the Left: Moments in the News That Made Me Ashamed to Be a Liberal. He says while John McCain remains the nominal frontrunner at this very early stage of the process, the Arizona senator has had a bad track record with conservatives, particularly on the border issue and judicial nominees. Thompson contends the McCain, were he to run, would even have to compete for the moderate Republican vote.

"Guest what? [Former New York City Mayor] Rudy Giuliani is looking at getting in the race, too," the author observes. "So those two guys split that moderate [voting bloc], which is not the predominant voice in the Republican Party anyway."

Thompson describes McCain's support in the GOP as "a mile wide but an inch deep." Among the factors that would count against the Arizona senator among Republican conservatives, says the author, are "his attempts to curry favor with religious conservatives after spending so much of his career dissing those voters, ... actually serving as a thorn in the sides of the conservatives on judicial nominations, and favoring this open borders amnesty approach."

So Thompson says even a longshot like California Congressman Duncan Hunter could cash in on the conservative GOP support. And while he believes Hunter is "good on the issues" and a "credible, strong guy," he says questions still remain.

"How he'll actually play [among voters is unknown]," he concedes. "There are so many factors [that come into play]." Hunter, he says, needs to be able to raise money and avoid verbal gaffes on the campaign trail.

According to Thompson, Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney remains another "McCain alternative," even though some evangelicals have a problem with his well-documented flip-flopping on hot-button issues like abortion and same-sex "marriage."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; duncanhunter; election2008; giuliani; mccain; presidentialrace; romney
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To: okie01

McCain's support has two measures: inside the GOP leadership, which is high because the party has been hijacked by RINOs from the congress to the party organizational leadership to the President.

Among actual voters, however, he doesn't stand a chance. Liberal independents and party-line zombies will vote for him, that's about it.


41 posted on 01/06/2007 9:17:01 AM PST by SolidForce
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To: Antoninus

The MSM can tout, push and pull McCain all they like, I don't see him survivng the primaries. He is a liberal wrapped in a Republican mantel (AKA RINO) and is as detestable a candidate as John Kerry.

After looking at Hunter's record, I'm not convinced that he is a better choice. Romney is a possibility as long as all the MSM have against him is his Mormon religion.

But, in all reality, I'm not sure that we have seen a strong likely candidate showing up in the beauty contest, yet.


42 posted on 01/06/2007 9:31:54 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: kots
We have only McCain, Romney and Guliani.

If those are the choices, we're not going to win. We've got to find another option.
43 posted on 01/06/2007 9:32:48 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: DustyMoment
After looking at Hunter's record, I'm not convinced that he is a better choice.

What are the problems with Hunter? He looks pretty strong to me. Weak on some of the free-trade issues, but any votes he loses on that issue could be made up among paleo-cons and Reagan Democrats who would like his position.
44 posted on 01/06/2007 9:34:44 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: texastoo
Al Gore has made statements saying he would do the gun issue differently.

It would be interesting to see Gore vs. Giuliani in 2008.

45 posted on 01/06/2007 9:36:03 AM PST by mhx
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To: PolishProud

Take a look at the Constitution Party; I'm going to. They believe in the Constitution as it was written. They believe in state sovereignty, and low taxes. They believe in the original principles of the Declaration of Independence.

I know they can't win, but I'll vote for them before I vote for McCain.

If it's a choice between McCain and Hillary: liberals and the Dem pimp media win.


46 posted on 01/06/2007 9:36:56 AM PST by kjo
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To: Antoninus
"Don't be fooled. If by some miracle, they can drag McCain across the finish-line to the nomination, the very next day they'll begin the Mother-of-All character assassinations. And McCain has plenty of baggage for them to use against him."


It's starting already. Kieth Olbertard was railing about McCain "running to the irrational right" to gain support.
47 posted on 01/06/2007 9:51:45 AM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: Antoninus
What are the problems with Hunter?

Based on his voting record, he has climbed into bed with the liberals too many times and voted in opposition to the GOP's position to a number of issues. I don't see a solid conservative in Hunter; only another "let's-all-get-along" conservative like Bush. BTDT!
48 posted on 01/06/2007 9:54:23 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: mhx
It would be interesting to see Gore vs. Giuliani in 2008.

It would be Gore vs. Giuliani vs. As Yet Unnamed 3rd Party Candidate. The Democrats aren't stupid enough not to find a "3rd Party" candidate to run to Giuliani's right if such a scenario occurred. My guess is that Lou Dobbs would be the man.
49 posted on 01/06/2007 9:58:08 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: DustyMoment
Based on his voting record, he has climbed into bed with the liberals too many times and voted in opposition to the GOP's position to a number of issues.

For example? We know where Giuliani, McCain, and Romney have gone off the rails time and time again. How about some specifics on Hunter??
50 posted on 01/06/2007 9:59:22 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: ClaireSolt

I find your statement about his face rather offensive; since, I had a battle with liver and cervical cancer a few years ago.

Sometimes one has to do what one has to do in order to live.

As for McCain, I've never been impressed with his Political Ideologies.


51 posted on 01/06/2007 10:17:40 AM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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To: kots
I would love to have Rick Santorum or John Bolton as the nominee, but let's face it: We have only McCain, Romney and Guliani.

Says who? The liberal media. I refuse to accept their word about who is the leading Republican candidate.

52 posted on 01/06/2007 10:20:18 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: kots
***I actually like Guliani. He has been a true conservative***

It's 12:24 and time to take your medication.

Rudy has never EVER been or done anything even remotely "Conservative". The guy's a freaking LIBERAL, period - end - stop.

And as to Rudy and immigration - you're wacky. He'd have all of Mexico here. He's the absolute WORSE on that issue!

53 posted on 01/06/2007 10:28:56 AM PST by Condor51 (Mayor Daley (D-Chi) For POTUS. Really, why not? He's more conservative than Rudy! /s)
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To: Antoninus
McCain Won't Excite Conservatives

Should be:

McCain Gets Conservatives WORKED UP

54 posted on 01/06/2007 10:35:28 AM PST by BobS
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To: Paloma_55

I hear ye. McLame has got to go.


55 posted on 01/06/2007 10:44:55 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Defeat the traitor McCain for President. Job #1.)
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To: Antoninus
Bump
56 posted on 01/06/2007 11:27:48 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Paige

I just want to know if he is healthy, and I don't care if that offends you.


57 posted on 01/06/2007 11:44:48 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: pogo101
"gun to my head"

I agree and I'm sure so do many conservatives. I'm not a big McCain fan, but when it comes down to him or Hillary, well, there is no choice. However I don't believe Republicans on this forum and other conservative areas understand how popular McCain is with the so-called independent voter. He is very popular with them. Even many hard-core Dems, like my lawyer daughter-in-law, would vote for McCain. I realize that's not a good reason to vote for McCain, but unfortunately it may come down to either McCain or Hillary. And again there is no choice.

58 posted on 01/06/2007 12:53:19 PM PST by driftless2
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To: Antoninus
How about some specifics on Hunter??

Well, you backed me down. I went back and looked at his record on a number of different sites and couldn't find the record I originally saw that made me form my original opinion. I know it was his record, but the information this time around came up differently - I can't explain it. Anyway, I am left to agree that he may be a viable candidate, after all.

Thanks for making me take a second look.

59 posted on 01/06/2007 2:27:10 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

DRAFT NEWT don't ask, just DRAFT NEWT


60 posted on 01/06/2007 3:37:25 PM PST by simka
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