U.S.- Mexico Pact Revealed: Billions to Non-Citizens.

NewsMax.Com ^ | Jan.5 '06 | Dave Eberhart

[T.L.Sink]

The U.S.- Mexico Social Security Totalization Agreement ...an agreement signed between the Bush administration and the Mexican government in 2004 that would funnel billions of U.S. Social Security funds to Mexican citizens. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) has already warned that as a result of this agreement, the number of unauthorized Mexican workers and family members eligible for social benefits will likely increase. The Social Security Administration itself warns that Social Security is within decades of bankruptcy - yet they seem to have no problem making agreements that hasten its demise...

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Thanks for educating us on this. I was unaware that there was such a thing as a 'Federal' Felony. Does this mean that there are 'State' Felonies as well?

We do so look up to your colorful way of putting things, not to mention your unrivaled level of respect for OUR President.

[rottndog]

You tattled????

I'm sooo hurt...

How big of you.

[ohioWfan]

You broke the rules all by your little lonesome.

There was no need to 'tattle.' The mods are obviously keeping their eyes on this thread (and you)............with all the trolls hanging around here.

You wanna keep it up?

[rottndog]

felonious violations of Federal law--good enough?

Respect is something one earns, not something one is entitled to. I respect Bush on the WOT. On immigration, I have no respect for him given that he is not respecting the constitution and his obligation to defend it.

[rottndog]

You wanna keep it up?

Keep what up, telling the truth?

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

And do your implications that he should be impeached fall into that same criteria?

[rottndog]

If a POTUS refuses to perform his constitutional duties, don't you think he should be subject to removal?

[ohioWfan]

Are you another one of those "I create my own truth" liberals? Cause you sure aren't telling the real truth.

Now...........are you quite finished with this nonsense? Or when I leave are you going to post another filthy comment about me behind my back?

I know........I know..........it's all about 'respect,' right? You don't respect the President because you're such a respectable fellow yourself. You've certainly 'earned' it on this thread. HA!

Now, excuse me once again, while I live my very real life and ignore whatever dopey or vile comments you decide to post next.......

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

I don't believe that you are intellectually qualified to make such a judgment. It's easy for you to call the hypotheticals' from your armchair, but most of us don't' see that as a credible assessment on your part.

By the rules of Congress, the President has done nothing that is in violation of his duties. In fact, on the contrary, he has gone well beyond what is required of him in every way, to uphold his oath and execute his duties.

He is not popular for his courage to do what is necessary, but that is something to be admired in the Man, not vilified.

[investigateworld]

Sorry if your feelings were offended.

Those of us who have been in the trenches and have donated heap big bucks to the "R" Party over the years, know we're being sold out.

Let's just for a moment go back to 1991, OK?

We'll see hugh and serious lines snaking around the various welfare offices in the county where I worked. The five year Congressional prohibition against the Amnesty beneficiaries receiving welfare in their own right has ended.

Now it's pay up time.

The demand was so great the county had to build 5 new welfare offices plus lease a couple of hundred thousand feet of additional space.

Now these new welfare offices, were all designed to take from workers and taxpayers, based on their abilities, and give to others, based on their needs.

Of course Federal funds were used in part to pay for the new welfare palaces, so the Davis - Bacon Act (requiring union wages) kicked in.

Except the county government forgot to tell the legitimate contractors that Fed.gov had given a waiver from Davis-Bacon as the demand for more welfare offices was 'pressing'. If you were 'in the know' you stood to make 50% or more on each project.

A few union members complained, but were told to shut up as "The National Union" didn't want to make waves about what the new citizens were costing us.

Now comes Bush wanting thirty million more 'citizens' of which at least half will instantly go on welfare? (I base that on my experience and observations on the '86 Amnesty.)

You can be certain that every dollar saved from Bush's tax cut will be reclaimed 10 fold.

But if ya gotta lot of money, and you sound like you do, no big deal.

But some folks in this country don't, even after a life time of working.

Moi has an inflation indexed (but with limits) pension (thanks taxpayers!), my health and a bidness which kicks in a few bucks so to speak.

But what about those that don't? I just wish for a moment, you could find a little compassion for them.

Lord knows Dubya don't!

[rottndog]

I would still like to know what "real truth" I am not telling. Bush is refusing to enforce our border sovereignty and immigration laws. That's the "real truth". You are simply in denial, because you have too much invested in Bush to accept any criticism of him. THAT is something liberals do.

I haven't said anything "behind" your back. Everything I have said is here for all to read. And, I am still here to defend everything I have said--I don't run away.

Your juvenile rants against anyone who disagrees with you about Bush tell everyone reading this thread who is or is not respectable. I have no worries in that department.

Your excused. I think you've had enough punishment for one day.

[mewzilla]

To my knowledge, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, this is the first time an agreement of this kind has been kept secret.

I've got one question: If this was done in good faith, why did folks have to FOIA the information?

[ohioWfan]

If I were back teaching elementary school, I would congratulate you on your very good imagination.

You're one of the best at making things up out of whole cloth, doggie. Good job.

btw, that was one of your dopey posts. Thanks for not being vile this time. That's progress.

Oh, yeah........and 'behind one's back' on this forum means that you didn't ping them to your insult (which you're supposed to do, so that people can defend themselves........especially when you get into the gutter like you did).

Try to keep up with the program, KAY? I'm just trying to help you out since you seem kinda lost.....

[ohioWfan]

I don't have the answer to that, but I will be trying to find that out, mewzilla.

It doesn't look good, IMO.

[rottndog]

There's nothing hypothetical about Bush's refusal to enforce border sovereignty and immigration laws, among a whole host of other laws that are associated with this issue (massive social security fraud and identity theft, to name a couple of them).

BTW, you are making a fatal assumption that "most of us" agree with you. The outrage about Bush's open borders policies is palpable and undeniable. If not for the WOT, Bush would be in BIG trouble, and would likely have lost the 2004 election.

POTUS is responsible first to the constitution, not congress. He very clearly is ignoring article 4 section 4, and that IS dereliction of duty.

While I admire Bush's courage and tenacity in the WOT, he will not get a pass from me on the illegal immigration issue. POTUS is not supposed to pick and choose which parts of the constitution to enforce.

[ohioWfan]

My 'feelings' weren't 'offended.' I'm actually feeling really good right now.

As one who actually has been 'in the trenches' as a conservative Republican, I understand feeling sold out by the party.

But not by the President. He's made his positions clear from the beginning.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I don't feel 'betrayed' that he has been consistent.

I think maybe the wounded feelings are on the other side of this argument..........like maybe yours?

[rottndog]

I'm still waiting to here what it is that I made up.

If your whining to the mods hadn't got my post removed, you and everyone else would see that in fact I did ping you in that post. And if you think that was vile, you really do have a thin skin--what a pity.

Selective memory, or just hiding behind the mods?

[rottndog]

BTW, I thought you were going to go away and carry on with your "very real live".

What happened?

[investigateworld]

Show me where the term 'path to citizenship' was ever publicly used, and I'll strike my colors and admit I had too much faith in the "R" Party.

Yes, I'm well aware of his "Guest Worker" concept, heck he's a wealthy man and loyal to his class, but 'citizenship? for criminals and a permanent Democrat majority?

[ohioWfan]

One does not 'hide behind' the rules of the forum.

Go ahead and keep advocating impeachment of President Bush if you're such a tough guy. Keep using foul language about me. I really don't care.

btw, I'm not going to detail what you've 'made up.' I don't use the kind of language you do, and you know exactly what you've said that isn't true.

Now this will be my last post to you. I now have the experience of knowing that you will try to entice me to continue this inane argument by some further dopey insult, but I shall not yield.

Break the rules all you want. I won't be around to watch you.