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Aircraft Carrier Heads to Persian Gulf as Iran Warning
newsmax ^ | Jan. 4, 2007

Posted on 01/04/2007 9:30:56 PM PST by nuconvert

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To: Goldie Lurks

"..A senior Pentagon official said Thursday. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the Defense
Department perfers not to publicly annouonce upcoming ship movements for security reasons."... So, why
is he telling the whole world?



In a perfect world, carrier operational secrecy might be worth something...but we don't live in that world. The carriers dock in well known ports, and their crews rtepresent a significant portion of the area population while they are in port.

Their absense is noticed.

Further, to get to amny of the trouble spots on earth, they have to pass through narrow straits, Gibralter, Suez, Indonesia/Malaysia...

...again they are noticed.

DOD may not post their plans on the front page of the Washington Post, but it only takes a very few mouse clicks to determine the location and status of our carriers. Nature of the beast.

Besides. This time around, we WANT the Iranians to take notice. However...

Moving an extra carrier in is the kind of thing you do when the bad guys do something you don't like, or when you expect the enemy to get uppity, or when you want to punish them, or if you have an op laid on and need to get assets into place without making it obvious that you're making a move...raising at least a couple of questions...

1. What, specifically did Iran do recently to piss us off?

2. Just what is the long term Bush plan for Iran and their nuclear weapon aspirations, and how does this one piece of that larger puzzle fit into place?

Before you answer, I can speculate as well as the average guy, and I'm not really looking for answers here, especially if they are less than obvious answers, the possession of which might aid some real jerks.

Just thinking out loud...

;-)


21 posted on 01/04/2007 10:41:46 PM PST by jeffers
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To: miliantnutcase
They should tell ahmadingdong that THIS is our qualifications to be nuclear.

LOL.. love that new name. American military during the recent wars have created stories among locals that are sometimes not true, it scares them further. Putting this stuff near Iran will scare the Mullahs at the same time make them wonder how did that huge thing float. LOL..

22 posted on 01/04/2007 10:51:10 PM PST by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: jeffers

They should move in a third carrier task force. Or is a third already moving in that we don't know about?


23 posted on 01/04/2007 11:15:50 PM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Goldie Lurks

Actually, west of Gulfport is the Stennis Space Center, where LOTS of research is being done.


24 posted on 01/04/2007 11:34:28 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: GATOR NAVY
He still wasn't worth a carrier.

Apparently, the DOD disagrees. ;o)

25 posted on 01/04/2007 11:35:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

26 posted on 01/04/2007 11:36:57 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Solitar

Shades of Gulf War I all over again. Kewl.


27 posted on 01/04/2007 11:40:01 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: nutmeg

Hello Nut Meg,

This is Nitro, who the hell are you???


28 posted on 01/04/2007 11:41:46 PM PST by Nitro (A)
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To: republicanwizard
Tell me - one of the Southern Democrats who opposed civil rights?

At first, yes; it was a sign of the times in 60's MS. He wasn't as racist as James O. Eastland, the other Senator from MS with whom he served. Nor was he the blowhard racist that Theodore G. Bilbo had been. Stennis ran for Bilbo's seat, after Bilbo's death.

By the 80's he'd become a strong supporter of civil rights. He's called the "Father of the Modern Navy" because of his support for updating the fleet. I'm sure that's why the Navy named the carrier after him.

29 posted on 01/04/2007 11:44:16 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: ChristianDefender
She is beautiful, but you should see what happens when you let her run wild in her natural habitat?

I am an ex-squid and the normal wear and tear of a 6 month Med Cruise is rough...

we try and do a fresh water wash down to ameliorate the effects of the salt on the skin of the ship, but ....

I am a proud ex-squid and I can assure you, that the care and feeding of a US Navy aircraft carrier is a full time job for 3,000 men.

30 posted on 01/05/2007 12:00:59 AM PST by Nitro (A)
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To: gonzo
FYI.

L

31 posted on 01/05/2007 12:03:53 AM PST by Lurker (History's most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: SuziQ
Actually, west of Gulfport is the Stennis Space Center, where LOTS of research is being done.

Yep - and there's a large munitions plant on that hunk of land, too. Fairly modern and automated, from what I can recall. I believe it was set up for 155mm artillery shell production, but there's no telling what it's tooled-up to produce these days.

32 posted on 01/05/2007 12:20:38 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: SuziQ
Go Johnny Reb!!

That's my favorite carrier "nickname", by far. You just *know* it makes liberals hopping mad.

33 posted on 01/05/2007 12:23:54 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Nitro
Great info...

That's very expensive for a maintenance... but as long as it helps maintain security and order in and around the country high expenses are fine.

You're a hero man... Thanks for the service.

34 posted on 01/05/2007 1:00:25 AM PST by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: sasportas

Stennis was a conservative on defense. I think Stennis was also one of the figures who was targetted for assassination by Scott Camill [?] and some members of Democrat Senator John Kerry's VVAW groupies back in the 70s; they put it up to a vote at one of their meetings and Kerry is said to have voted against the plot. But as it happens Stennis did get shot in January 1973 and the incident was brushed off as a mere robbery by three black men who were later convicted, though as I recall nothing was taken and the men had some questionable radical associations. In spite of Scott Camill's VVAW assassination idea Kerry apparenlty thought people had forgotten and had the guy on his campaign staff. The Swifties hadn't forgotten and they called Kerry on it in the 2004 election and so he had to rapidly disassociate himself from the guy.


35 posted on 01/05/2007 1:14:46 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Lurker

Roger that, L. They've been rotating Carrier Groups in&out of there since June, 2006. Always a minimum of two Carrier Groups, sometimes three.

Doesn't seem to faze Amanutjob though. He's still crazier than a shit-house rat.

Stay well ................FRegards


36 posted on 01/05/2007 1:23:07 AM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: ChristianDefender

Someone on another thread called him Ahmadoinjihad, which I thought was pretty clever and funny.


37 posted on 01/05/2007 1:24:42 AM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: sasportas
* Phoenix Project : Recent weeks have seen revelations of the Phoenix Project, a plot to assassinate six US Senators that was once debated and brought up for a vote by high-ranking members of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, including presumptive 2004 Democrat Presidential nominee John Kerry, then a leader of the VVAW.
The plot was conceived and promoted by VVAW member Scott Camil, and though it was voted down at a secretive November, 1971 VVAW meeting in Kansas City, about which Senator Kerry has no recollection, many questions remain. One of the targets was Senator John C. Stennis, who was shot by two assailants outside his home on January 30th, 1973, three days after the cease fire between the U.S. and North Vietnam went into effect.
While the shooting of Senator Stennis was immediately judged to be part of a robbery attempt, the new information that he was a potential assassination target of members of the VVAW have warranted a second look.
Interestingly, the atmosphere of the VVAW in the early 1970s was so radicalized that another former member actually did carry out a well-known assassination of a government official on American soil.
On November 6th, 1973, former VVAW member Joseph Remiro, by then with the Symbionese Liberation Army, teamed with SLA member Russell Little to assassinate Oakland Schools Superintendent Marcus Foster as he left the Oakland school district administration building in Oakland, California. --------- "Joseph Remiro - From VVAW member to 1973 SLA Assassin," Various | March 24th, 2004 | Compiled by Sabertooth, Posted on 03/24/2004 7:09:26 PM PST by Sabertooth

If I remember right, in 2004 Kerry claimed he had tendered his written resignation from the VVAW two days before the 1971 meeting where they voted on "Operation Phoenix" ...but no resignation letter has been found. Witnesses claim he had not resigned and did attend and voted the idea down.

38 posted on 01/05/2007 1:29:41 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: ChristianDefender
You're a hero man... Thanks for the service.

I am no hero, I was a guy from Brooklyn who wanted to go to sea...

blame John Wayne, after all the movies..........

I would only go Navy!

John Wayne is the hero, he inspired me.

39 posted on 01/05/2007 1:35:04 AM PST by Nitro (A)
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To: metmom

This is good news. It will get even better once the Sunnis in the ME decide that Iran cannot be allowed to gain further power in Iraq, Lebanon or elsewhere.

The Sunnis and the Shias should be encouraged to "discipline" each other.


40 posted on 01/05/2007 5:01:28 AM PST by indcons (Fellow FReepers - Best Wishes for 2007.)
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