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BBC: Net tightens on Somali Islamists ~ Kenya shuting down border
BBC ^ | Tuesday, 2 January 2007, 18:00 GMT | BBC Staff

Posted on 01/02/2007 12:32:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Net tightens on Somali Islamists

Ethiopian helicopter

Ethiopian aircraft and artillery are backing Somalia's government

Kenya has beefed up its security and closed its border with Somalia to halt defeated Islamic militias driven from Kismayo in southern Somalia.

The Islamists say their retreat from advancing Ethiopian and Somali forces is tactical and warns of an insurgency.

A BBC reporter says helicopters and hundreds of army and police have deployed in the border town of Luboi.

The BBC's Bashkas Jugsodaay says a lot of Somali refugees are stranded at the border and are in a bad way.

Somalia's interim President Abdullahi Yusuf is meeting Kenyan leader Mwai Kibaki in Mombasa to discuss security.

The two-week advance of heavily armed Ethiopian forces ended a six-month Islamist occupation which had brought a degree of stability to large areas of formerly lawless Somalia.

Border

Ten fighters arrested trying to get into Kenya at the weekend were foreigners backing the Islamists, according to Somali's interim government.

Map

The United Nations Humanitarian co-ordinator for Somalia, Eric La Roche, has expressed concern at the border closure saying it would affect women and children.

Medical aid agency, Medicines sans Frontiers (MSF) plans to send its international staff back into Somalia this week if provided with adequate guarantees. It pulled its international staff out of Somalia two weeks ago.

Two top Islamist leaders are reported to have been seen south of Kismayo with dozens of armed pick-up trucks following their retreat from Kismayo. Ethiopian forces are said to be in pursuit.

Ethiopian forces are set to remain in Somalia to ensure stability after the defeat of Islamist militias, but splits have emerged over when they may leave.

Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi told MPs that he hoped his forces could withdraw within two weeks.

But the prime minister of Somalia's fragile interim government, Ali Mohamed Ghedi, says that heavily-armed soldiers from Ethiopia would be needed for months.

Divisions

Somalia's weak interim government wants Ethiopian forces to remain in the country until peacekeepers deploy, as they have few well-trained troops and are poorly placed to maintain law and order without help.

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But the presence of Ethiopian troops on Somali soil could also damage the government's attempts to win widespread support, the BBC's Karen Allen says.

As if to illustrate the divisions, the deputy prime minister in Somalia's transitional government, Husayn Aideed, has been criticised by the prime minister's spokesman after calling for unity with Ethiopia.

Speaking to clan leaders in Mogadishu, Mr Aideed said the two countries should follow the example set by Europe which was divided by two world wars and now was united.

"We share a 2,000km long border. We are brothers. There is nothing that divides us. We want one passport. One army. One security. One economy."

But Abdirahman Dinari said this was definitely not government policy.

On Monday, Mr Ghedi set a deadline of Thursday for all Somalis to hand in their weapons, but this has reportedly borne little fruit so far in the capital, Mogadishu.

He has also offered an amnesty to fleeing Islamists if they give themselves up.

European members of the Somali Contact group are due to meet in Brussels on Wednesday to discuss how Europe can help peace efforts in Somalia.




TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: africa; alqueda; somali; somalia
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1 posted on 01/02/2007 12:33:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: blam; yochanan; neodad; ASA Vet

Bit of an update!


2 posted on 01/02/2007 12:35:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Target rich environment.


3 posted on 01/02/2007 12:36:23 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Well, it's 2007. Time to get ready for 2008.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Islamists say their retreat from advancing Ethiopian and Somali forces is tactical and warns of an insurgency.

The only way Islamists can "fight" -- hide in the shadows and kill unsuspecting (and most often completely innocent) people with IEDs. Combat is out of the question.

4 posted on 01/02/2007 12:37:06 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Kenya has beefed up its security and closed its border

They are on the right track. I wish our own leaders would give more thought to the value of border integrity, both here and abroad, as part of a solid war strategy.

5 posted on 01/02/2007 12:39:05 PM PST by Gator101
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"The Islamists say their retreat from advancing Ethiopian and Somali forces is tactical.." Must be using the same PR guys Murtha and the rest of the Dems are using.


6 posted on 01/02/2007 12:39:55 PM PST by dblshot
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Is it me,or does the BBC seem to be portraying the Islamists as the good guys. Hope I'm being paranoid, but that's the way I read it.
Also, it is good that we have a word to describe the bad guys: Islamists, it'll do though I like Islamic Fascists better.
7 posted on 01/02/2007 12:42:56 PM PST by don'tbedenied
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To: don'tbedenied
Is it me,or does the BBC seem to be portraying the Islamists as the good guys.

Don't you know the Islamists brought stability to Somalia.

Islamist occupation which had brought a degree of stability to large areas of formerly lawless Somalia.

Nevermind the so called "stability" was built upon threats of decapitation, stonings, floggings and other violence but for the BBC that was some good 'ol stability.

8 posted on 01/02/2007 12:48:53 PM PST by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The two-week advance of heavily armed Ethiopian forces ended a six-month Islamist occupation which had brought a degree of stability to large areas of formerly lawless Somalia.

Stability? formerly lawless?

9 posted on 01/02/2007 12:58:41 PM PST by oldbrowser (This war isn't over until it's OVER.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Noose tightens on Somali Islamists

Life is so unfair.

HaPPy New Year!


10 posted on 01/02/2007 1:05:46 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Target rich environment.

I hope they learned the lesson of Iraq: kill 'em while you can or they're nothing but trouble later.

11 posted on 01/02/2007 1:09:07 PM PST by jdsteel ('nuff said (old Marvel Comics reference....))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Islamist occupation which had brought a degree of stability to large areas of formerly lawless Somalia.

I guess the twittle britches at the BBC also would praise the stability of Iraq under Saddam. Except for the occassional dissenter's trip through a log chipper, or the gassing of the Kurdish, Iraq was a fairly stable place.

12 posted on 01/02/2007 1:09:25 PM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thank goodness they are shuting it down. When I heard these murderers were heading toward Kenya I was sickened. Our Church supports kids at a Christian school there and I was terrified for them.


13 posted on 01/02/2007 1:09:36 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good. They're recognized for the brutal, intolerant murderers that they are.


14 posted on 01/02/2007 1:10:24 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach


It's only an isolated band of extremist. There is no "Muslim problem". Most Muslim nations are quite peaceful. See?
15 posted on 01/02/2007 1:11:13 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: Jaysun
Next, add in the shades of red/pink for the commie/socialist states, and not much of that map would be left looking free.

(Updated) NINA = No Irish ISLAMICS Need Apply

16 posted on 01/02/2007 1:23:41 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When you watch the movies and the bad guy has been disarmed,he always threatens to kill the good guy later. I always wondered why the good guy never took the threat seriously and killed he bad guy right on the spot.

Threats of insurgency cannot come true if there arent enough left alive to carry them out. Thats the only way to beat these terrorists. This isnt a civil prosecution of civilians. The se are hardened fighters who have taken off their uniforms and gone undercover. According to the Geneva convention a legal target.


17 posted on 01/02/2007 1:48:13 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is how to wage war and we should learn from the Ethopians here:

1) Tell the enemy they are going to die for their crimes until they are all gone.

2) Use overwhelming, brutal force to do what you say. I like the pic of the Mi8 (big smile).

3) Give an ultimatum to lay down ALL weapons or die.

4) Go into Mogodishu with overwhelming force as in point #2 until all the bad guys are dead.

5) Seal the border so none escape. They either fully submit or fully die.


18 posted on 01/02/2007 1:53:50 PM PST by quantfive
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To: quantfive
Our Elites don't like to fight that way...but they will let the Ethiopians do what needs to be done....
19 posted on 01/02/2007 2:00:22 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Kenya has been the victim of Islamist terrorism coming from this direction before. They would have been foolish to let these "refugees" over the border. These scum would have shown their gratitude to Kenya by butchering anyone who got in their way.

The BBC is greatly saddened. They're still waiting with baited breath for this "strategic withdrawal" to come to an end.


20 posted on 01/02/2007 2:14:08 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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