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To: Valin
Iminngernaveersaartunngortussaavunga

Say that three times fast.

2 posted on 01/02/2007 6:29:18 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: mtbopfuyn; Valin

Cunning linguist ping!........


3 posted on 01/02/2007 6:31:22 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Oh, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!
4 posted on 01/02/2007 6:35:58 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream, that sees beyond the years)
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To: mtbopfuyn

NO!

FYI
If anyone is interested (or if anyone is not interested)
Story of Human Language
(36 lectures, 30 minutes/lecture)
Course No. 1600
Taught by John McWhorter
Manhattan Institute
Ph.D., Stanford University

http://www.teach12.com/ttcx/coursedesclong2.aspx?cid=1600&pc=Search

"I never met a person who is not interested in language," wrote the bestselling author and psychologist Steven Pinker. There are good reasons that language fascinates us so. It not only defines humans as a species, placing us head and shoulders above even the most proficient animal communicators, but it also beguiles us with its endless mysteries. For example:

How did different languages come to be?
Why isn’t there just a single language?
How does a language change, and when it does, is that change indicative of decay or growth?
How does a language become extinct?
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An accomplished scholar, Professor McWhorter is also a skilled popularizer, whose book The Power of Babel was called "startling, provocative, and remarkably entertaining," by the San Diego Union-Tribune.

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For the past century linguistics has been one of the most exciting and productive fields in the social sciences. In the process of telling the story of language, Professor McWhorter introduces you to some of the current controversies in the discipline:
Noam Chomsky has famously argued that the ability to use language is innately specified in the human brain. What is the evidence for and against this hypothesis?
The popular media have widely reported that words from the world’s first language have been reconstructed. Professor McWhorter looks at the reasoning behind this work and the objections to it.
One of the most enticing ideas of 20th-century linguistics is that language determines the way we perceive the world. But is this really true?
The Ebonics debate of the mid-1990s focused attention on Black English. What is the nature of this dialect and where did it come from?
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It’s remarkable how much one language sheds light on another. For example, the ancestor language of English is Proto-Germanic and the ancestor of that is Proto-Indo-European. A curious transformation took place in the consonants of Proto-Germanic, in which Proto-Indo-European p became f; d became t; and so on with other consonant pairs. Hence, Latin pater is English father, and Latin decem is English ten. This rule is called Grimm’s Law after its discoverer, the same Jacob Grimm who collected folk tales.

Such patterns make relationships among different languages clear and make learning these languages much easier.
(snip)


5 posted on 01/02/2007 6:39:05 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

How much longer until French is no longer spoken?


17 posted on 01/02/2007 7:10:12 AM PST by JBR34
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To: mtbopfuyn
"I should try not to become an alcoholic" is one word: Iminngernaveersaartunngortussaavunga.

I was approached by a staggering drunk down on State Street once who said something very similar. I gave him a buck and he seemed satisfied.

23 posted on 01/02/2007 7:39:39 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: mtbopfuyn

In languages like that it is not that something is all one word. There are not any stand-alone words. There are what we might call "word elements" and all sorts of social relationships and directions are expressed by different addons- prefixes, suffixes and infixes. Word division becomes arbtrary.


35 posted on 01/03/2007 6:39:34 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Each extinction means that a fascinating way of putting words together is no longer alive. In, for example, Inuktitut Eskimo, which, by the way, is not dying, "I should try not to become an alcoholic" is one word: Iminngernaveersaartunngortussaavunga.


Curiously, that's exactly what I say when I am drunk.


55 posted on 01/03/2007 3:34:34 PM PST by FastCoyote
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