[Quix]

These are the people that diminish the work of the Cross and take away from the Gospel."

I still, mostly, do not see it that way.

Most nonChristians, unchurched etc.

are sick to DEATH of ornery, exceedingly flawed themselves, so called Christians taking THEIR crosses and bloodying everyone within reach for not believing precisely and constipatedly as that individual believes.

And, or, they have pontificated loudly about being Christian this in this way or Christian that in that way while being blood thirsty hypocrites abusively all over whoever will tolerate it.

AND THE NONBELIEVERS ARE SICK OF IT. THEY WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD AND CHRISTIANITY AS A RESULT. AND I DON'T BLAME THEM.

Seems to me the seeker friendly folks are SLIGHTLY TO SOMEWHAT righting things by showing Christ's COME UNTO ME LITTLE CHILDREN side.

Jesus was PRIMARILY fire and brimstone TO RELIGIOUS LEADERS

--NOT THE HUNGRY HURTING MASSES.

[Tax-chick]

wow - graphics!

[Huber]

There are many who agree with you, for the other seems a more difficult and less kind path by temporal standards.

[AppyPappy]

AND THE NONBELIEVERS ARE SICK OF IT. THEY WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD AND CHRISTIANITY AS A RESULT

Then I guess they will just have to go to Hell. But at least they know they are going there. There are plenty of pew sitters going to Hell because they have never truly known their need for a Savior. Their pastor didn't want to risk making them uneasy.

[pby]

"I still, mostly, do not see it that way."

How could you not?

How is Warren's going to the synagogue and teaching Synagogue 3000 how to increase their attendance via Purpose Driven methods not taking away from the Gospel?

How could a "pastor" teach a Christ-less message to a group that so needs the Savior?

Even some Synagogue 3000 members commented on Warren's language gymnastics in avoiding Christ.

If you care about winning the lost, then how do you explain Warren's teaching the lost to increase in their numbers?

[Gamecock]

***Jesus was PRIMARILY fire and brimstone TO RELIGIOUS LEADERS***

Isn't Warren a sterotypical religious leader?

***are sick to DEATH of ornery, exceedingly flawed themselves, so called Christians taking THEIR crosses and bloodying everyone within reach for not believing precisely and constipatedly as that individual believes.***

Kinda like you are doing on this thread?