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Krugman's Cockroaches
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/29/2006 5:16:49 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: Fresh Wind
Neoconservativism is explained here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservativism

61 posted on 12/30/2006 11:46:09 AM PST by MurryMom
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I dunno how the homeless would buy their beer and cigarettes without that disability pay from Social Security.


62 posted on 12/30/2006 11:47:33 AM PST by Luke21 (Learn Spanish now. It's the wave of the present.)
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To: Lee'sGhost
More pertinent to your post is this excerpt from the Wikipedia.org article on neoconservativism:

Neoconservatism, American Jews, and "Dual Loyalty"

Some opponents of neoconservatives have sought to emphasize their interest in Israel and the relatively large proportion of Jewish neoconservatives, and have raised the question of "dual loyalty". A number of critics, such as Pat Buchanan and Juan Cole, have accused them of putting Israeli interests above those of America. In turn these critics have been labeled as anti-Semites by many neoconservatives.

David Duke and some other white nationalists attack neoconservatism as advancing Jewish interests. They say a "Jewish supremacist" movement exists in the United States. Critics conclude that some of their claims, such as that Jews achieve influence through the intellectual domination of national leaders, are anti-Semitic [citation needed]. Similarly, during the run-up to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, the politically left-wing magazine AdBusters published a list of the "50 most influential neocons in the United States", noting that half of these were Jewish, and insinuating that the preponderance of Jews in neoconservatism leads them to "not distinguish enough between American and Israeli interests". The article asks "For example, whose interests were they protecting in pushing for war in Iraq?", and ends with the statement "And half of the them are Jewish."

Neoconservatives say that they were much less interested in Israel before the June 1967 Six Day War. It was only after this conflict, which raised the specter of unopposed Soviet influence in the Middle East, that the neoconservatives became interested in Israel's security interests. They promote the view that Israel is the United States' strongest ally in the Middle East as the sole Western-style democracy in the region, aside from Turkey (George W. Bush has also supported Turkey in its efforts to join the European Union).

Commenting on the alleged overtones of this view in more mainstream discourse, David Brooks, in his January 6, 2004 New York Times column wrote, "To hear these people describe it, PNAC is sort of a Yiddish Trilateral Commission, the nexus of the sprawling neocon tentacles".

In a similar vein, Michael Lind, a self-described 'former neoconservative,' wrote in 2004, "It is true, and unfortunate, that some journalists tend to use 'neoconservative' to refer only to Jewish neoconservatives, a practice that forces them to invent categories like nationalist conservative or Western conservative for Rumsfeld and Cheney. But neoconservatism is an ideology, like paleoconservatism and libertarianism, and Rumsfeld and Dick and Lynne Cheney are full-fledged neocons, as distinct from paleocons or libertarians, even though they are not Jewish and were never liberals or leftists."

Lind argues that, while "there were, and are, very few Northeastern WASP mandarins in the neoconservative movement", its origins are not specifically Jewish. "...[N]eoconservatism recruited from diverse 'farm teams' including Roman Catholics (William Bennett and Michael Novak) and populists, socialists and New Deal liberals in the South and Southwest (the pool from which Jeane Kirkpatrick, James Woolsey and I [that is, Lind himself] were drawn)".

63 posted on 12/30/2006 12:01:40 PM PST by MurryMom
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To: MurryMom

Oh my God you are right it is a Jewish conspiracy!!!!



Im gonna sell my Bagel Stock now


64 posted on 12/30/2006 12:05:00 PM PST by woofie
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To: MurryMom
Only the neocons presently ruling Washington are capable of believing the lies about forged Niger uranium documents

Who lied about the forged Niger docs?

65 posted on 12/30/2006 12:14:51 PM PST by secretagent
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To: MurryMom

Shouldn't you be somewhere hugging your knees while whimpering and sniveling about Saddam being dead?


66 posted on 12/30/2006 12:52:14 PM PST by Darksheare (Hey, you're curious reader #[an error occurred while processing this directive] to reach the end.)
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To: MurryMom
The neutrality of this article is disputed.
Please see the discussion on the talk page.

67 posted on 12/30/2006 1:56:55 PM PST by Fresh Wind (All we are sa-a-a-ying, is give Beast a chance.)
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To: MurryMom
Ahhhhh. . . . just as I thought. Neoconservative means just about anything depending on who is using it. Therefore it means nothing.

Neo-communist, however, still and will always mean "liberal."

There, glad we cleared that up.
68 posted on 12/31/2006 7:27:04 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: MurryMom

Please identify ONE republican effort to suppress the minority vote.

(The rest of your statements are also lies, but I'll address one sentence (er, lie) at a time.)


69 posted on 12/31/2006 7:44:59 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: MurryMom; Toddsterpatriot

You mean like private accounts holding stocks and bonds?

Disregarding the sarcasm and cynicism in your post, we can expect that bonds in the SS fund will be backed up by stocks and/or bonds about the same time that bonds held by banks in Russia, China, India, Venezuela, et al., are backed up by hard assets like stocks.

IOW, never.

Interesting list there: Confirming, by the way, her preferred economic models are all in (failed) socialistic countries. Note that she recognizes that this will also fails

HER choice is government OWNERSHIP of the social security bonds (and PRIVATE retirement money - as proposed ALREADY by democrats!) to have the government own (dominate) the stock market.
70 posted on 12/31/2006 7:52:23 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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