Our troops are being murdered because they are restrained; worrying about the hearts & minds of Iraqis and the world at large.
I can only assume you are talking about this. My question still applies.
It appears that you like others here don't seem to understand the why, how, and time frame of Iraq.
Why To establish a freely elected liberal government in Iraq. To provide an alternative to the dicatatorships that exist, or the jihadist ideology. You will recall that shortly after 9-11 the usual suspects started barking Root Causes Root Causes Root causes, of course by that they meant it's all our fault, but the President actually looked at what has being said by those in the area, one of their major complaints was lack of freedom. So he decided to address this....hence OIF. We didn't go in there just to kill a bunch of ragheads.
How to give the Iraqi people shot at freedom, and at this point given the history and culture they're not doing too bad. Now you may disagree but if you go to the Iraqi blogs & the milblogs you'll see a different story than the one we see everyday in the DBM.
Time Frame How many times has the Persident and others dsaid this is a generational war? You think they're kidding? They're not. As I've said before this is the cold war and it's 1952.
You can assume anything you like, however, I answered your question and mentioned other points which you have no answers to. Admit it! Here they are AGAIN:
PC policies, the hearts & minds crap, acceding to Maliki (Sadr's proxy) "orders" by releasing a captured Mahdi army commander and taking down the US check points around Sadr City, etc.
It appears that you like others here don't seem to understand the why, how, and time frame of Iraq.
Valin, don’t use big words, I'm not intimidated.
Nope, it's YOU like some here who don't seem to know enough about the Middle Eastern thought process as a reflection of their history. People there are controlled by their tyrannical religion and rulers and are afraid to think for themselves, even when given the chance. Unfortunately it's a fact of Middle Eastern life.
You talk down to others rather than having a civil conversation. If you live in a glass house...don't accuse people of ignorance!
To establish a freely elected liberal government in Iraq.
In Iraq, there will be no "Western-type" democracy. The democracy we envision, including Separation of Mosque and State WILL NEVER Happen for a very simple reason: it has to start from the crib which is impossible without a Turkey-type arrangement where there is a benevolent general who's lurking in the shadows and watching the politicians, compelling them to follow the Turkish Constitution OR ELSE!
You can flame me for an emotional opinion but at least it will tell you about an incident in the violent Iraqi history and how people don't know anything but life under tyranny. Surely you know about it, right?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725530/posts?page=74#74
As I've said before this is the cold war and it's 1952.
Heeeaaavyyyy, LOL! Cold war, 1952? Even the cold war era had its hot wars with Soviet and Chinese proxies: Korea, smack in your 1952, and Viet Nam come to mind.
It's a red-hot war in Iraq with all the shooting and bombing everyday. It may be a lukewarm war (intermittent) with the Muslim communities in France, in the UK, in Spain and just sparking in the rest of Western Europe and Scandinavia.
For us to attain victory, this is what I believe should be done in the ME and to let other adversaries know that, as the only Superpower, we mean what we say :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1758095/posts?page=53#53
So, I understand the Whys, the Hows and the Time Frames you're throwing around. What you don't understand is how to go about dealing with it!
Valin,
I'm willing to keep the dialogue civil, otherwise, don't bother to answer.
Have a good day.