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Joshua Chamberlain & Providence Question
Book: Through Blood and Fire ^ | Dec 27, 2006 | LibertyBelt

Posted on 12/27/2006 2:50:04 PM PST by LibertyBelt

Can any good brothers from Maine or Alabama confirm to me the source of this quote, said to be found in a book written by Joshua Chamberlain.

An Amazon review says this is found on page 21 in the book, but a search of other internet links does not mention this letter as much as one would imagine. Here is the Amazon quote/review:

A letter written to Chamberlain...by a Confederate combatant of the 15th Alabama Regiment which assaulted Little Round Top on July 2...is astonishing(p.21).The former rebel soldier simply states that he COULD HAVE SHOT CHAMBERLAIN TWICE during the battle but spared him: "I rested my gun on the rock and took steady aim. I started to pull the trigger but some ...notion stopped me.Then I got ashamed of my weakness and went through the same motions again. I had you,perfectly certain. But that same ... something shut right down on me.I couldn't pull the trigger, and gave it up--that is,your life. I am glad of it now, and hope you are...Yours truly"

Was ever such a letter written? Can anyone check if you have the book? My son needs it for a college essay. He wants to argue what would have happened if the bullet had struck Chamberlain, and the 20th Maine would have lost the left flank at Little Round Top? Would there be two nations in the US today?

Thanks!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Alabama; US: Maine; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bowdoincollege; brunswick; gettysburg; joshuachamberlain; joshualchamberlain; maine; providence
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1 posted on 12/27/2006 2:50:08 PM PST by LibertyBelt
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To: LibertyBelt

Chamberlain's biography is called "In the Hands of Providence" but I don't know if that's the book.


2 posted on 12/27/2006 2:56:20 PM PST by Spok (He who bites the hands that feeds him will lick the boot that kicks him.)
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To: LibertyBelt

You are asking for it, LOL. There will be some neo-confeds out to rip you to shreds for saying Chamberlain is somehow praiseworthy. Just warning you.


3 posted on 12/27/2006 2:58:18 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: LibertyBelt

Took Maine grandson to Gettysburg to see where LJC fought.


4 posted on 12/27/2006 2:59:02 PM PST by larryjohnson
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To: LibertyBelt
20th Maine would have lost the left flank at Little Round Top

Well then, I guess we really coulda gone to the riiiight !!!!

5 posted on 12/27/2006 3:06:27 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: LibertyBelt
I think it's oversimplying to say that the loss of the left flank would have cost the Union Gettysburg, or even conceding that, that the loss of Gettysburg would have turned the tide for the Confederacy. There are just too many other factors to consider.

However, it is likely that a loss at Gettysburg would have made the Union even MORE cautious; the reticence of its commanders had already allowed Lee to run circles around the Army of the Potomac.

Logistically, and Gettysburg notwithstanding, the South could never have won that war.

6 posted on 12/27/2006 3:14:12 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: LibertyBelt

I don't know how rigorous your fact-checking needs to be, but it appears
in an article online.

Scroll down about 3/4 of the page to this heading:

"MY LIFE HANGS ON AN IMPULSE"

http://www.gdg.org/Research/People/Cross/blodfire.html


7 posted on 12/27/2006 3:14:56 PM PST by VOA
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To: dinoparty
Some of our Confederate ancestors were able to make many individual honorable decisions towards northerners during that unfortunate war...

Not all of us 'neo-cons' are totally without perspective. The following link illustrates how one of our Carolina soldiers saved people on both sides...

Deo Vindice

Angel of Marye's Heights

8 posted on 12/27/2006 3:26:55 PM PST by Van Jenerette (U.S.Army, 1967-1991, Infantry OCS Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning)
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To: LibertyBelt
"The Traveler's Gift"
BY contemporary speaker Andy Andrews (andyandrews.com)
Would be a good secondary resource...

TG Has chapters and narratives about Chamberlain's brave stand at Little Round Top.

Andrews' work is a morality fiction wrapped around many historical encounters -- Andy is quite a student of Chamberlain -- and mentions this letter in the discourse of the lead character and Col. Chamberlain.

The bibliography cites all the accurate historical data and quoted works...

Hope this helps...

9 posted on 12/27/2006 3:30:17 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers remain available; Wisdom is obtained by asking all the right questions!)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Answer please.


10 posted on 12/27/2006 3:37:40 PM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: LibertyBelt
It's definitely in the literature; I've read it in one of the numerous books I have about TBOG, LRT, and JHC. Will try to find it tonight. I think it's in one of the 19th Century books, which automatically makes the story unreliable. People "remembered" all kinds of things that subsequent scholarship found to be untrue - and Chamberlain had one of the worst memories of them all in hindsight.
11 posted on 12/27/2006 3:39:10 PM PST by Ironclad (O Tempora! O Mores!)
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To: IronJack
I think it's oversimplying to say that the loss of the left flank would have cost the Union Gettysburg, or even conceding that, that the loss of Gettysburg would have turned the tide for the Confederacy. There are just too many other factors to consider.

I visited the battlefield about a week before this year's anniversary and listened to a park ranger giving his opinion that the loss of Little Roundtop might not, probably would not, have made a difference. He pointed down the line (Cemetery Ridge) and basically said, "you MIGHT be able to bring 2 guns to fire down the line, but that is about it. The cleared area is just too small when firing to the north." It also assumes that the Confederates could have gotten guns up there during the melee, or captured Union guns intact.

A bit revionist. But I had to admit that he had a point about the gun line being too narrow.

12 posted on 12/27/2006 3:42:35 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: LibertyBelt
Chamberlain is simply one of the greatest Americans who ever lived. His accomplishments in war and in life are astounding.

He gets my vote as the most singularly underrated American citizen....ever.

13 posted on 12/27/2006 3:43:50 PM PST by zarf
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To: dinoparty
Sir, folks who know their history are able to appreciate good soldiers and officers from either side. No need to insult folks who have strong southern pride.

The FReeper Foxhole Profiles Colonel Joshua Chamberlain - May 17th, 2004

14 posted on 12/27/2006 3:55:14 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: LibertyBelt

Chamberlain, in his bio, claimed that as he advanced downhill, a Confederate officer had him dead-on in his pistol sights, but was out of ammo.


15 posted on 12/27/2006 3:55:36 PM PST by LS
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To: Van Jenerette
Wonderful story everyone should know.

The Angel of Marye's Heights

Donald C. Pfanz

ON CHRISTMAS DAY, 1862, with the memories of Fredericksburg still fresh in his mind, Gen. Robert E. Lee wrote his wife lamenting the hardships of war: "What a cruel thing is war: to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world." And yet, amid the killing, there were individuals whose kindness and compassion lifted the spirit and reminded soldiers of their common humanity. Richard Rowland Kirkland was one such individual. On Dec. 14, 1862, Kirkland risked his life to comfort soldiers who lay wounded in front of Marye's Heights. It is not uncommon for a soldier to risk his life for a friend. What makes Kirkland's story so compelling is that he risked his life to help his enemies.

Thank you for your service Van Jenerette.

16 posted on 12/27/2006 3:58:51 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: LibertyBelt
My favorite Chamberlain.

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17 posted on 12/27/2006 3:59:34 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: zarf
"Joshua Chamberlain was responsible for one of the most poignant scenes of the Civil War[at Appomattox]. As the Confederate soldiers marched down the road to surrender their arms and colors, Chamberlain, on his own initiative, ordered his men to come to attention and "carry arms" as a show of respect. Chamberlain described what happened next:

The gallant John B. Gordon, at the head of the marching column, outdoes us in courtesy. He was riding with downcast eyes and more than pensive look; but at this clatter of arms he raises his eyes and instantly catching the significance, wheels his horse with that superb grace of which he is master, drops the point of his sword to his stirrup, gives a command, at which the great Confederate ensign following him is dipped and his decimated brigades, as they reach our right, respond to the 'carry'. All the while on our part not a sound of trumpet or drum, not a cheer, nor a word nor motion of man, but awful stillness as if it were the passing of the dead.

Chamberlain's salute to the Confederate soldiers was unpopular with many in the North, but he defended his action in his memoirs, The Passing of the Armies. Many years later, Gordon, in his own memoirs, called Chamberlain "one of the knightliest soldiers of the Federal Army."

Even those of us with ancestors who defended the South, have a great deal of respect for Chamberlin.

Deo Vindice

18 posted on 12/27/2006 4:00:59 PM PST by Van Jenerette (U.S.Army, 1967-1991, Infantry OCS Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning)
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To: snippy_about_it
I have heard of this soldier. He was referred to as the Good Samaritan.
19 posted on 12/27/2006 4:01:12 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: IronJack
Logistically, and Gettysburg notwithstanding, the South could never have won that war.

Actually, I think you'll find many who will disagree with you. Had the 20th Maine run, the outcome of the war could have been considerably different.

Would the South have won? Maybe not, but the peace would have been much more equitable.

20 posted on 12/27/2006 4:13:26 PM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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