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Get with the programs, boomers, or lose them (Barf!)
Newday ^ | 12/22/06 | Saul Friedman

Posted on 12/26/2006 3:44:13 PM PST by qam1

Continuing our coverage of the next generation of seniors, this one is for the kids - men and women in their 40s or 50s.

They are our grown children, most of whom have not known privation, economic depression, a world without television or what it was like in a country that was truly at war to save democracy.

In short, it's for a generation with little or no memory of what came before. As my late colleague Lars-Erik Nelson once wrote, few of these people "can imagine why there was ever a need for Social Security, Medicare, the GI Bill, federal wage and hours laws, a federally underwritten welfare program, environmental protection, affirmative action, banking and security regulation, consumer protection and public defenders."

Maybe because this busy, ambitious generation knows little about what life was like before those protective acts of the federal government, there has been only a shrug when these laws have been ignored, weakened or allowed to die. In the past decade or so, the nation seems to have turned again to Calvin Coolidge's nostrum that "the business of America is business."

According to several polls and studies, says AARP's policy director John Rother, many adult Americans younger than 50 have little regard for the federal government and almost no knowledge about its most basic social programs, Social Security and Medicare.

"They are busy with their own lives, and they rarely speak to their parents about their finances to learn how they depend on these programs," Rother told me. "They don't think about these things until they're 64. But they ought to, or these benefits could disappear."

Social Security and Medicare are seen as benefits for "old people" and seem far removed from their lives, says Rother. The men and women of Generation X...........

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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The jest of it for those who don't like excerpts

This guy claims that the younger generations (in this case the late Baby Boomers & Gen-x) are too spoiled and being tricked by the media, so we don't appriciate all these wonderful federal government programs that we are being forced to pay for.

1 posted on 12/26/2006 3:44:16 PM PST by qam1
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To: qam1
it's for a generation with little or no memory of what came before how can you have a memory of something that happened before you were born?
2 posted on 12/26/2006 3:46:11 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; ...
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3 posted on 12/26/2006 3:48:08 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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" Social Security, Medicare...federal wage and hours laws, a federally underwritten welfare program...environmental protection, affirmative action, banking and security regulation, consumer protection "

Good news if the next generation is willing to pull the plug on these kind of unconstitutional programs.

4 posted on 12/26/2006 3:48:53 PM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: SF Republican

I prefer to think of the boomers as the generation that discovered everything and learned nothing. Everything references back upon themselves. (And yes, I am one)


5 posted on 12/26/2006 3:50:32 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: qam1

"The jest of it..."
You might have meant "the gist of it", but the jest will be on those who depend on the gubmint to take care of them from the cradle to the grave.


6 posted on 12/26/2006 3:54:20 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

There are only two kinds of people: those who divide everybody into two groups and those who don't. I can see that you and I are of the former.


7 posted on 12/26/2006 3:55:33 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (Do what you love and the ridicule will follow.)
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To: qam1

The generation that had everything handed to them wants the next generation to keep paying for their gravy train? I'll pass, thanks.


8 posted on 12/26/2006 4:00:43 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Thanks, I think.....


9 posted on 12/26/2006 4:02:04 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

"I prefer to think of the boomers as the generation that discovered everything and learned nothing"





I think of them as our last educated, patriotic generation.

The teacher's union didn't really gain control until the late 60s, which since then we have seen a dumbing down of America, and more than seven million Americans men enlisted in the military between 1960 and 1975, with another two million serving through the draft.


10 posted on 12/26/2006 4:04:35 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: ansel12

Good points, but the influence seems to be weighted by those who were radicalized and made the "long march" up through government and academia.


11 posted on 12/26/2006 4:06:37 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: BenLurkin
" Social Security, Medicare...federal wage and hours laws, a federally underwritten welfare program...environmental protection, affirmative action, banking and security regulation, consumer protection "

Federal wages and hours? WTF is that? I get paid on salary, and I work until my work is done. The whole "wages and hours" crap is utter rubbish.

12 posted on 12/26/2006 4:07:22 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: qam1

Dump social security now. End it today. No more payments.

When you hit age 65, the socialist federal government sends you a check for every penny you paid in. Then you get no more, not a cent. Invest it, go to las vegas, give it away to your favorite charity. It's yours.

How to pay for it? Sell the socialist federal forests. There's 193 million acres the feds have no business owning. Sell the trees first and then the land, as needed. Year after year until everyone who paid into the ponzi scam is paid off.


13 posted on 12/26/2006 4:13:08 PM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

"Good points, but the influence seems to be weighted by those who were radicalized and made the "long march" up through government and academia."





Yes it is, Something related to this, is that it seems to me like the left has been less successful in their grand destructions in the last 30 years than they were in the 40 years before that.

The left is still there and powerful, but they can't pass the nation destroying legislation that they were, from about 1935 to 1975, or maybe 1913 to 1973.


14 posted on 12/26/2006 4:21:06 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: qam1
According to several polls and studies, says AARP's policy director John Rother, many adult Americans younger than 50 have little regard for the federal government and almost no knowledge about its most basic social programs, Social Security and Medicare.

I resemble that remark!!! Awesome!

15 posted on 12/26/2006 4:34:50 PM PST by hispanarepublicana (Funny, but I don't remember pressing 1 for English in 1994.)
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"They are busy with their own lives, and they rarely speak to their parents about their finances to learn how they depend on these programs," Rother told me. "They don't think about these things until they're 64. But they ought to, or these benefits could disappear."

When my grandmother (now deceased) would bring up her SS check (her memory was failing), I told her to think about it in terms of my paying for about half to a third of her check. She was stunned to hear that it was just a legalized Ponzi scheme.

I couched it in terms of money that I could use for my retirement savings being stolen to pay for her retirement because the government spent all her SS payments instead of investing them properly.

I also told her that I'd rather give her the money directly because none would be wasted on bureaucracy before it got to her.

According to several polls and studies, says AARP's policy director John Rother, many adult Americans younger than 50 have little regard for the federal government...

Gee, I wonder why we do?
16 posted on 12/26/2006 4:42:58 PM PST by Lord Basil (stupisticated - Having a refined fantasy view of the world that is typically based on group-think.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
The generation that had everything handed to them wants the next generation to keep paying for their gravy train? I'll pass, thanks.

I'm 50. NOTHING has been handed to me. I've been paying huge income taxes and maximum social security for 25+ years. I expect to be working and paying the same way for another 15-20 years. The whining about some imaginary "gravy train" is misdirected. I never expect to be able to retire and recover any part of the money I've been "contributing" since 1973.

17 posted on 12/26/2006 5:08:47 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Lord Basil
My mom turns 79 next week. She lives on the survivors benefit from my dad's Navy retirement, social security and investment income that my dad set aside before he passed on. She was extolling the virtues of the social security checks and medicare. I was quietly bristling as I know exactly how that money is supplied. My taxes far exceed what is disbursed to my mother each month.
18 posted on 12/26/2006 5:15:35 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: BenLurkin
Good news if the next generation is willing to pull the plug on these kind of unconstitutional programs.

Especially when they get a load of that 88% tax rate.

Our generation will phase these programs out. the only question is whether we'll rationally privatize them now or slamm on the breaks in panic three decades down the road.

19 posted on 12/26/2006 6:32:24 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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To: ansel12
I think of them as our last educated, patriotic generation.

You are wrong, especially since you bring up the military service of the Boomers. The kids going into the military today are smarter, better educated and better soldiers than any we've ever had, and they are patriotic as all get out.

There's nothing wrong with lauding the sacrifice of those brave Boomer men, but most of today's soldiers went through those same public schools and still are, in the words of R. Lee "Gunny" Ermey, "ready to eat their own guts for this country."

20 posted on 12/26/2006 6:41:28 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (The people walking in darkness have seen a great light...Merry Christmas!)
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