Posted on 12/26/2006 1:48:15 PM PST by aculeus
After defeating the fascists and the communists, can the West now defeat the Islamists?
On the face of it, the West's military predominance makes victory seem inevitable. Even if Tehran acquires a nuclear weapon, Islamists have nothing like the military machine the Axis deployed in World War II, nor the Soviet Union during the Cold War. What do the Islamists have to compare with the Wehrmacht or the Red Army? The SS or Spetznaz? The Gestapo or the KGB? Or, for that matter, to Auschwitz or the gulag?
Yet more than a few analysts, including myself, worry that it's not so simple. Islamists (defined as those who demand to live by the sacred law of Islam) might do better than the earlier totalitarians. They could even win. That's because, however strong the Western hardware, its software contains some potentially fatal bugs. Three of them — pacifism, self-hatred, complacency — deserve attention.
Pacifism: Among the educated, the conviction has taken hold that "there is no military solution"to current problems, a mantra applied to Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, the Kurds, terrorism, and the Arab-Israeli conflict. [snip]
Self-hatred: Significant elements in several Western countries — especially America, Britain, and Israel — believe their own governments to be repositories of evil and see terrorism as just punishment for past sins. This "we have met the enemy and he is us" attitude replaces an effective response with appeasement, including a readiness to give up traditions and achievements. Osama bin Laden celebrates by name such leftists as Robert Fisk and William Blum. Self-hating Westerners have an outsize importance due to their prominent role as shapers of opinion in universities, the press, religious institutions, and the arts. They serve as the Islamists' auxiliary mujahedeen.
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IMMIGRATION.
There are plenty of fascist dictators and Communists who remained.
We need to consider this when tackling the war on Islamonazism. We should erradicate the ideology and not just neutralize the contempory players.
I think we've been at this since around 700 AD
no reason to think it will change anytime soon
Islamic Supremacists represent an older form of tyranny. The Crusades were fought beating back such imperial conquest.
Do we want our descendants going through this every couple of hundred years, knowing that new weaponry continues to be developed? It isn't a matter of converting everyone of this mindset. It is of establishing that there must be tolerance for the West and freedom of religion within "Islamic nations". No differentation under the law between muslims and non-muslims. No segregated nations or cities (including Mecca).
...is a completely good thing -- no matter the size of the influx or the particular people coming in -- and no good person would dare question that!
Don't you know that?
Ray Mendez, mole-rat specialist, quoted from the documenty Fast, Cheap, & Out of Control (1997):"The whole concept of stability is a concept of death. It's part of my problem with the Bambi concept of natural history, where everything is beautiful and cute and benign. It's not the world. The world isn't like that at all.
You're either 'prey, you're an 'enemy', or you're 'ignored'.
Now think about all the islands. Island wildlife was wiped out because people could walk up to them with a stick and hit it on the head because it's much easier to kill something that doesn't see you as an enemy. By the time they realized it, they were extinct."
We are the island birds and do not sufficiently recognize the threat.
It's hard to see these Kool-Aid drinkers even even confronting the threat then. Recall that a mere two weeks after 9-11, the beautiful people in Greenwich Village were out marching in anti-war demonstrations mere blocks from where the twin towers still smoldered.
I honestly think that next time it happens, we are going to have to send trucks and busses to rescue the rescue workers and let the Kool-Aid drinkers either shoot each other or, mercifully, do it for them.
We have proved that the electorate at large simply doesn't have the stomach for a war lasting longer than about two or three years as long as fifth columnists control the media.
We need to take a page from McArthur's playbook-- totally defeat the enemy first and then win their hearts and minds, not the other way around.
The real hazard is that if Iran can form a new Caliphate...that we are going to be confronted by a unified Islamo-fascist position that will be devastating at cherry-picking the West apart. The Europeans have already proved to be willing accomplices thereto with their Airbus scam.
Furthermore, the Islamists will also find great allies in their project to tear down the West...in China and Russia.
The Dodo...
They the islamist can be defeated. We need to let our soldiers fight the war they way wars are fought and won.
What the hell is this when when shots are fired from a mosque we do nothing? F#@k them and there religion, these animals know that the US Politicals are weak and wont fight the war that needs fighting.
The war in Iraq would have been over the first year if we actual fought it to win. You throw pool ball at me, I throw pool ball at you.
WTF is wrong with GW and all the great military minds... to win is to kill the enemy, beat them into submission. WTF I ask???
I think that is the real threat. Basically, people (or at any rate, the leaders) in this society have rejected both Christianity and reason, and they honestly don't understand what it would be like to drop into a slave society that was governed by neither. By the time they begin to chafe under sharia, however, it will be too late.
The only thing that is likely to derail Islam is that violence is really built into it, and violence and repression are part of its scriptures. So it's hard to see that any Islamist movement could forego resorting to violence for very long.
The fact that we have to lock our doors at night should be a daily reminder to us that we are safe because we protect ourselves, not because the world is inherently safe. If we don't protect ourselves, we will lose. It's just that simple.
1.2 billion people.
If 10-15% of them are hard core jihadists that's about 180,000,000 jihadist, and probably hald a billion sympathizers.
"After defeating the fascists and the communists, can the West now
defeat the Islamists?"
No. Not as long as OUR guvmint helps us commit suicide by importing terrorists
and their co-congregants.
(reposts from previous threads)
More Muslims moving to U.S.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1699992/posts
US schools compete for Saudi students -not yet able do effective
background checks on applicants
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1699252/posts
Victor Davis Hanson: Those Saudi Students. It’s not irrational to
be wary of this deal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701943/posts
and here's a story of how one Muslim student learned tolerance and
embraced diversity after visiting America (/sarc):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686655/posts
Fascism and Communism remain sprinkled amongst our political leaders of both parties.
I tend to think that this is true is a sense. Self-hatred and past sins in the West maybe due to a break down in the family unit. Victims of modernization without a heart and soul. However, people in the West are FREE to exist and express themselves. For better or worse, this puts the West 1000s of years ahead of Islam.
Actually, there is.
Islam and its love of death (which is hatred of life and love itself) will soon have a new sword...a nuclear one.
All boosted and trumpeted by the Left and the media.
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