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Bipartisan Effort to Draft Immigration Bill
NY Times ^
| 12/26/2006
| By RACHEL L. SWARNS
Posted on 12/25/2006 6:36:59 PM PST by Chesner
WASHINGTON, Dec. 25 Counting on the support of the new Democratic majority in Congress, Democratic lawmakers and their Republican allies are working on measures that could place millions of illegal immigrants on a more direct path to citizenship than would a bill that the Senate passed in the spring.
The lawmakers are considering abandoning a requirement in the Senate bill that would compel several million illegal immigrants to leave the United States before becoming eligible to apply for citizenship.
The lawmakers are also considering denying financing for 700 miles of fencing along the border with Mexico, a law championed by Republicans that passed with significant Democratic support.
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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; atzlan; bushamnesty; crimaliens; illegalaliens; illegalswin; immigrantlist; immigration; invasionusa; itsallover; mccain; reconquista
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To: traditional1
Jeff Sessions probably needs help. I know my senators, Kay Baily Hutchison or John Cornyn, won't help him. They are both RINO duds who will sell us out in a nano second.
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:45:54 PM PST
by
texastoo
("trash the treaties")
To: boomop1
Don't look at the individuals...its the corporate money that
washington is awash in....nothing that increasing the House by a factor of 10 would'nt resolve....
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:46:02 PM PST
by
mo
To: elpinta
The US is not like so many countries where the people have lived in a pressure cooker for years if not centuries; this mess is just now starting, so it will take time I think, and one of the reasons is that way too many people are making a lot of money out of the economic system, and while they do so, what do they care! The rest that sort-of make it, are OK with it because they mostly come from worst situations.I'd give up every Christmas present I got this year if you could somehow make every American understand this. We are enriched by you being here.
Merry Christmas!
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:46:20 PM PST
by
WatchingInAmazement
(President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
To: RFEngineer
"...never seen it, they will never believe it would be possible until they are living under a piece of corrugated tin themselves...."
Good to see that you grasp the sense of what I said.
Of course, as a fellow RF guy (I think) you would!
:-)
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:46:26 PM PST
by
elpinta
(KALIFORNIA: the Environmentally Correct Litigious State)
To: Lancey Howard
I am not Mexican, but I can tell you that immigrants that did it right become upright, conservative (were to begin with), and hard working (were to begin with) Americans.
Also I can tell you that immigrants that came over to milk the system become/stay parasites, and so are their families, not by choice, but by example.
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:48:50 PM PST
by
elpinta
(KALIFORNIA: the Environmentally Correct Litigious State)
To: Lancey Howard
Is there a study somewhere that shows that Mexicans who become citizens and then voters in this country are athiests, parasites, and losers who would therefore, naturally, vote Democrat? I wonder if many of them are honest, hard-working, family-oriented traditionalists who would therefore, naturally, vote Republican? Locally the Hispanic population is bombed by liberism. Our local latino publication can be google translated to see the bias towards pubs... I do this to keep an eye on their political agendas...which are about as inline with the Dims as can be expected.
Latino News web page... note the "deportee's" headline with Bush on the left side
Google translator... scarry stuff can be uncovered.
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:49:28 PM PST
by
LowOiL
(Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
To: rabscuttle385
You might, or might not, be shocked to learn how many Americans now flee the U.S. in their retirement.
They just don't want to be here for what they see coming, and find their new country more stable.
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:50:22 PM PST
by
Richard-SIA
("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
To: ckilmer; All
Settle down folks ... The revolution was fought and won by a mere 30% of the population.
The beauty of getting older is the maturity to truly comprehend that thing called 'posterity', and the power of age is the will to do something.
Does anyone here really feel that they are so doomed that they are helpless ... castrated?
Of course not ... as long as we pump red, white and blue blood .. we have what is needed to defeat a powerful enemy.
The colonists fought against a political/military force that not too long before had been their own government .. England.
Patrick Henry asks, do we hold life so dear?
Is it so worth living in servitude?
Maybe it's time we resurect that call to men's souls ..
Give me liberty or give me death.
68
posted on
12/25/2006 7:51:18 PM PST
by
knarf
(Islamists kill each other ... News wall-to-wall, 24/7 .. don't touch that dial.)
To: Chesner
Yes, deny fencing along the border so that 93 violent illegal aliens can come across our border EVERY SINGLE DAY and kill nearly 25 people in the U.S EVERY SINGLE DAY- BRILLIANT! http://sacredscoop.com
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:53:56 PM PST
by
CottShop
To: dennisw
"GW let these illegals overrun our borders the last 6 years"
Ha ha ha ha!
Got some sad news for you, I was nearly fired from a good job over TWENTY years ago for making the mistake of leaving some literature on my workbench that sounded the alarm on the illegal invasion!
It's not new, and the Reagan "amnesty" only made it worse, as continued amnesties became nearly certain so long as the illegals continue to pour in.
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:54:18 PM PST
by
Richard-SIA
("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
To: TomGuy
I will DEMAND it of mine, what will you do with yours?
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:56:27 PM PST
by
Richard-SIA
("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: dennisw
"...I don't want America to become like Venezuela or Argentina or Cuba or Mexico..."
Bet you that few that support this immigration reform have ever visited a 3rd world country (never mind live there for a month).
Except for Cuba, I have been there; I used to correspond with Cubans; I for some reason visited XYZ country this year... pathetic, and they think they are so educated and polished, living in such deplorable conditions... that is the point, when you live in a pile of sh't, eventually you don't smell it! The government is there to make sure you get used to it, and ours is doing just fine so far.
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posted on
12/25/2006 7:56:47 PM PST
by
elpinta
(KALIFORNIA: the Environmentally Correct Litigious State)
To: photodawg
Let me guess. You blame conservative's for Bubba's win in 92 as well. Its NEVER the GOP's fault that their crummy candidate disgusted the base. Its those idiot conservatives. Don't they know the RNC owns their votes?? (sarcasm off)
To: TomGuy
But you have to get their attention some how.
The GOP has been deaf to the conservative base.
If you vote for the same (GOP), you are only going to get more of the same.
The key is for the House. Do the Dems want to retain it? If the House Dems pass amnesty, they will be out of power in 08. They know that. They may not be as stupid as the Pubbies seem to be. Some House Dems have already indicated that amnesty is NOT a done-deal, even though GW hopes it is.
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How incredibly naive. You didn't get anyones attention. You gave the house and senate to the pacifist commies. No one will even remember what you were mad about.
More of the same would have been a defeat of the senate bill and a mandate for the fence. And more of the same is infinitely preferable to the communist manifesto.
Lastly, the dems will make the amnesty a bipartisan bill so they won't get hurt, just get all the Spanish vote. Then they will oversight the war, and the financing of the war and the impeachment of Bush and all will be publicized on the MSM. The dems will totally control the political agenda for 08 by dwelling on Bush and past republican trumped up transgressions. There is no guarantee you'll ever get power back until the next nuclear 9-11 happens. Those are the facts babe! Show me how I'm wrong over the next 18 months of clown show freak circus that will be American democrat politics.
To: WatchingInAmazement
There is the part that should send chills down the spine of anyone. These corrupt dogs are going to totally ignore law passed by large majoriy of our elected officials.This is not new. We have santuary laws in place to keep the law breakers free. We have police departments and sheriffs who actually pick and choose what laws they will follow. Our country is going to he!! in a hand basket. You can bet Bush will sign comprehensive amnesty if it is passed by Democrats or Republicans. All we need is a veto but we won't get one.
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posted on
12/25/2006 8:00:48 PM PST
by
texastoo
("trash the treaties")
To: CottShop; All
Yes, deny fencing along the border so that 93 violent illegal aliens can come across our border EVERY SINGLE DAY and kill nearly 25 people in the U.S EVERY SINGLE DAY- BRILLIANT! http://sacredscoop.comEvery one of us should buy an ad in our local paper with your words. It's going to have to be short and to the point and reach a lot of people to stop this nonsense. The dems and the open border repubs all ran on enforcement of the border and went into the election having voted for the fence, even most of the dems. They know no one is paying attention to what they're up to now.
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posted on
12/25/2006 8:00:58 PM PST
by
WatchingInAmazement
(President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
To: Lancey Howard
Mexicans are often socially conservative along with many blacks.
However,both groups are very dependent on big government largesse and will vote Dem because they will give up these goodies way more willingly than Republicans and economics usually trumps such issues as abortion,gay marriage,gun rights,etc.once they get in the voting booth.
To: Lancey Howard
BTW... here is a little tidbit from that site I linked earlier that Google just translated... It basically tells them how they are gonna get proved to legal status... by saving their reciets for proof..
Link to their editorial...
Other considerations are Roman Catholic in nature... a lot of those "good" value illegals take their cue from the church... a church that is making a fortune on illegals... thus will be pushing a party that is doesn't support borders.
79
posted on
12/25/2006 8:01:51 PM PST
by
LowOiL
(Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9))
To: upchuck
I certainly understand those sentiments. The most important thing to our politicians is power, i.e. re-election. Voters, democrats and republicans, will have to stand up and be counted on this one. We will have to go up against the powers that be. But we either stand strong together and win or we lose. It won't be easy but it can be done.
80
posted on
12/25/2006 8:05:22 PM PST
by
maxter
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