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Russia: Nostalgia For USSR Increases
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty ^ | December 23, 2006 | By Victor Yasmann

Posted on 12/24/2006 12:45:17 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin2

December 21, 2006 (RFE/RL) -- Nearly every week in the month of December features a key date in the history of the Soviet collapse. This year, which marks the 15th anniversary of the death of the USSR, finds some in Russia looking back wistfully as there seems to be a rise in historical revanche.

The last days of the Soviet Union began on December 8, 1991, when the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus announced that the USSR had "ceased to exist as a geopolitical reality."

They culminated on December 31 -- a week after the resignation of the first and last Soviet president, Mikhail Gorbachev -- when the Soviet flag was lowered at the Kremlin for the final time.

Spinning History?

The tumultuous course that Russia has followed ever since has generated, perhaps inevitably, a fervent desire among some to recast the past in a rosy hue.

The shelves of Moscow bookstores are stuffed with more than 500 new books on the life of the Josef Stalin; more than half of them are apologist in tone.

In recent weeks, national television networks have aired two films on the life of Leonid Brezhnev that depict the "stagnation" leader as a genial, sympathetic patriarch with a penchant for mocking his political advisers.

Even more startling has been the public rehabilitation of the Soviet-era intelligence and secret political police, the KGB. Authorities in the city of Tver recently unveiled a monument to former Chekists.

On December 8, the KGB's successor agency, the Federal Security Service (FSB), launched for the first time in the country's post-Soviet history a series of awards recognizing literary and artistic achievement in works depicting the agency and its work.

Soviet Symbols

The awards are modeled on similar KGB prizes which from 1978-1989 rewarded artists for the "creation of a positive Chekist image."

Another sign of the times is the resurgent Cold War antagonism toward the West in general, and the United States in particular. It's a mind-set that appears to captivate nationalist-patriots, centrists, and liberals alike. It has become fashionable in Russia to accuse the West of Russophobia.

Mikhail Leontiyev, the Kremlin-friendly commentator for Channel One television, recently repeated a phrase attributed to former presidential chief of staff Aleksandr Leontiyev: "Americans got so drunk at the USSR's funeral that they're still hung over" -- so much so, the reasoning apparently went, that they are incapable of understanding that Russia has changed.

The occasion of the 15th anniversary of the USSR's collapse has also sent into overdrive efforts to revise the Soviet legacy.

Russian President Vladimir Putin led the charge in his 2005 state-of-the-nation address, during which he called the demise of the Soviet Union "the great geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century."

This year, Federation Council Speaker Sergei Mironov referred to the collapse as "a mistake that could have been avoided."

'Cultural Counterrevolution'

Vladimir Zhirinovksy -- the outspoken deputy speaker of the State Duma who can usually be relied on to put the Kremlin's thoughts into words -- predicted that in the next decade, Russia would create a new Soviet Union. "There will be no 25th anniversary of the disintegration of the USSR," he told a television talk show.

Nostalgia for the Soviet Union -- as well as for tsarist Russia -- is only one element of the gigantic "cultural counterrevolution" that has marked Putin's presidency. The rise in nationalist and pro-imperial sentiment has gained currency in Russia, as has the mockery of Western liberal values.

The main contributors to this process are a massive and aggressive propaganda campaign eagerly advanced by the national television networks; the Russian Orthodox Church; pro-Kremlin intellectuals, and the myriad quasi-civic and youth organizations created by the presidential administration.

In such an atmosphere, it's hardly surprising that many polls show the majority of Russians expressing regret about the decline of the Soviet Union and even desiring its resurrection together with other former Soviet republics.

Even the theories explaining the Soviet collapse are beginning to evolve. Until recently, there were two popular justifications.

The first, liberal, rationale: The 1917 Bolshevik Revolution wrenched Russia off the road of natural progress and civilization. The democratic trends that emerged after 1991 returned the country to that road, and Russia is continuing the journey, albeit with great difficulties.

The second, national-patriotic, version: The Soviet Union collapsed because of a plot between Western intelligence agencies and traitors among the Soviet nomenklatura. If such a plot had never been devised, the argument goes, the Soviet Union would still exist.

Reasons For The Collapse

Both interpretations, however, betray the Soviet system as inherently weak and inefficient. They also both dwarf the role of the KGB, which was created to guarantee the power of the Communist Party but ultimately failed in its task.

In 2006, Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) released a fresh volume of its history, including an analysis of the Soviet collapse. The SVR dismisses the theory that the death of the USSR was historically predetermined. Instead, it depicts the downfall as a chance combination of adverse historical circumstances and the "failed policy" of Gorbachev.

The study notes efforts by the administration of U.S. President Ronald Reagan and the American intelligence community to weaken the USSR during the final stages of the Cold War. These efforts included the U.S. Strategic Defense Initiative -- better known as "Star Wars" -- that aimed at exhausting the Soviet economy by setting a new bar in military and defense parity. They also included restrictions of exports of Western hi-tech to Russia, the fall in oil prices, and U.S. support to anti-Soviet operations in Poland and Afghanistan.

But, in the view of SVR analysts, it was neither Reagan's strategy nor special operations by the CIA that created the crisis in the Soviet system. In the words of the report, it only "aggravated" it.

This conclusion was recently echoed by former KGB Chairman Vladimir Kryuchkov. In a December 14 interview with "Izvestiya," Kryuchkov revealed that he had been warned about the possible collapse of the USSR by his U.S. counterparts. In 1987, he said, he met with Robert Gates, the future CIA director (and current defense secretary), who asked him if he was concerned about the possible disintegration of the USSR.

"I believe that Americans at that time already realized that because of our policy...we would ruin [the USSR] even without their help," Kryuchkov said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: evilempire; kgbputin; stalinproud; ussr
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To: alloysteel

I think it's well established that the Tsars saw themselves as geopolitical competitors with Great Britain. I can't imagine where the Tsars would have seen themselves in competition with the US (excepting perhaps China and Korea, where Japan, Great Britain, France, and Germany were also in the competition).


21 posted on 12/24/2006 1:59:48 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin2
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To: DeaconBenjamin2
I think it's well established that the Tsars saw themselves as geopolitical competitors with Great Britain.

Perhaps in Central Asia. But Russia and Britain were allies against Napoleon and during WWI.

22 posted on 12/24/2006 2:02:30 PM PST by A. Pole (John McCain: "Pick lettuce!" - http://projectusa.org/db/forums/lettucepickers100.php)
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

Following the tripartite division into economics, culture, and sociology, one could assume a modified position of Samuel Huntington and argue for the primacy of sociology as THE fundamental civilizational determinant [and indeed claim that sociology = civilization; the marxists would argue for the primacy of economics]. On this assumption, the sociology is the only thing that matters there, and not the geopolitics, territory, Siberia etc. Besides, the Chinese to whom Siberia might be eventually lost or sold, belong to the same [or rather sociologically kindred] civilization, what one Karl Marx used to call "asiatic despotism". This is the level at which one looks for changes - and at this level the things are unchangeable.


23 posted on 12/24/2006 2:11:30 PM PST by GSlob
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

Those are the Russians who long for the days when everything they said was subject to being overheard and transmitted to the "proper authorities" and when they did not have to make decisions, such matters, too, were in the hands of those proper authorities. Those aren't people, they're sheep, pure and simple.


24 posted on 12/24/2006 2:24:06 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: GSlob
This is the level at which one looks for changes - and at this level the things are unchangeable.

Are you saying that abolishment of serfdom in Russia and slavery in USA (about the same time) did not change things at fundamental level?

When FDR was elected FOUR times was it a sign of despotism? Putin is as popular as FDR for similar reasons.

25 posted on 12/24/2006 2:28:34 PM PST by A. Pole (John McCain: "Pick lettuce!" - http://projectusa.org/db/forums/lettucepickers100.php)
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To: OldPossum
Those are the Russians who long for the days when everything they said was subject to being overheard and transmitted to the "proper authorities" and when they did not have to make decisions, such matters, too, were in the hands of those proper authorities. Those aren't people, they're sheep, pure and simple.

Or maybe they are afraid that robber barons who caused death of millions (through free market shock therapy) return?

26 posted on 12/24/2006 2:31:08 PM PST by A. Pole (John McCain: "Pick lettuce!" - http://projectusa.org/db/forums/lettucepickers100.php)
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To: GSlob

I agree 100%


27 posted on 12/24/2006 2:36:57 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: A. Pole
Yes, I'm saying precisely that, for the level you mentioned I see as superficial and not as truly fundamental. Serfdom in its essential features [sans the sales of the serfs- they became state property, nobody was left to sell them to] was effectively reborn in "kolkhoses" - which begs the question, how thoroughly had it been abolished, and from which more socially fundamental phenomena did it get reborn? And the absence of such re-birth in the US means that the slavery here existed as sociologically superficial [with regard to the basis of civilization] phenomenon.
28 posted on 12/24/2006 2:40:51 PM PST by GSlob
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

btt


29 posted on 12/24/2006 3:27:58 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: GSlob; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Cicero; GarySpFc; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; ...
I am sorry, but it seems to me that you are prejudiced against Russians same way as some are prejudiced against Jews. You use different measures to judge/evaluate their culture than you use toward other nations. The desired result of your analysis is fixed, the arguments and methods are adjusted appropriately.

If Russia were located beyond the ocean, she would not be bled by WWI and the small political sect of Bolsheviks could not seize power there.

Communism came from Western Europe and had broader support in Germany, Spain, France, Italy etc ... There was a bloody civil war in Spain, in Germany and Italy the Communism was suppressed by Fascism which in National Socialist form was not better than the Soviet system.

The core patriotic part of Russian society fought long war against the Reds (not so differently than it was done in Spain). They lost because they did not get help from abroad. The large part of the Soviet elite was recruited from non-Russians and the Soviet system mellowed over generations as Russian ethnic and cultural element took over for demographic reason.

the absence of such re-birth in the US means that the slavery here existed as sociologically superficial [with regard to the basis of civilization] phenomenon.

We do not know it. Slavery was integral part of culture and economy in the South and blacks got full civil rights only in the second half of XX century. Now we see the rise of Political Correctness and of totalitarian militant secularism (not so different from the one which devastated Russia.)

Do not take liberties for granted, and do not project weak aspects of the human nature which are UNIVERSAL into one demonized group be they Russian, Jews or Serbs. As history teaches, it brings evil fruits.

30 posted on 12/24/2006 3:31:58 PM PST by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.")
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To: A. Pole
In my travels in Eastern Europe after the downfall of the USSR, the ones other than the commies them selves were the older people who bought into the womb to the tomb promise for their life of labor.
31 posted on 12/24/2006 3:41:26 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
In my travels in Eastern Europe after the downfall of the USSR, the ones other than the commies them selves were the older people who bought into the womb to the tomb promise for their life of labor.

If older (and less old) people in USA lost their Social Security, retirement funds and saving on the altar of shock "therapy" to enrich a few Khodorkovskis the reaction would be stronger.

32 posted on 12/24/2006 3:44:15 PM PST by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.")
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To: A. Pole

Prejudice means judging without knowledge [pre-judging], If one has knowledge and judges based on it, then whatever else it could be, prejudice it is not. Of that knowledge I - by virtue of being born and growing up there - claim sufficiency. And at sociological/civilizational level Russian civ and history are beautifully summed in the saying "ya nachal'nik - ty der'mo, ty nachal'nik - ya der'mo" [If I'm the boss, then you are a turd, and if you're the boss then I'm a turd]. This is that very fundamental level of which I was writing on this thread earlier. And naturally I deny the validity of such a civilization in all its parts: root, trunk, bark, leaves and branches. Barbari sunt, barbarice egit.


33 posted on 12/24/2006 3:46:53 PM PST by GSlob
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To: A. Pole
I expect that to happen!
34 posted on 12/24/2006 3:48:51 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: GSlob
Of that knowledge I - by virtue of being born and growing up there - claim sufficiency.

Hmm, this is strange if you are Russian, how come that you could improve yourself so much :) How do I know that you are not a homo sovieticus and "kagebun" even now?

If the leopard cannot change its spots, why should YOU?

35 posted on 12/24/2006 3:56:34 PM PST by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.")
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To: A. Pole

I am not a genetic russian, glory be. But I was born and grew up there, and claim sufficient knowledge of the place's sociology, culture and history, native proficiency and absolute literacy in language [including complex - and very complex - grammar] etc. And as for "how I managed to improve myself so much" - it took dedicated and concentrated effort to accomplish the transcivilizing. "Dostigaetsya uprazhneniem", as one Myshlaevsky used to say.


36 posted on 12/24/2006 4:18:20 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob
I am not a genetic russian, glory be. But I was born and grew up there, and claim sufficient knowledge of the place's sociology, culture

I did not know that genotype can "protect" you from the surrounding culture. Hmm, so did you grow without any culture?

37 posted on 12/24/2006 4:28:18 PM PST by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.")
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

KPRF

(to the melody of 'YMCA')

From eXile.ru
Old man, there's no reason to be down
I said old man, you're still kicking around
I said old man, though your country is gone
There's no need to be unhappy

Old man, there's a place you can go
I said old man, to get out of the snow
You can go there and they'll give you a flag
While you stand around some statue

It's fun to be in the KPRF It's fun to be in the KPRF, yeah You'll have lots of good times With nice people your age And you won't even have to pay It's fun to be in the KPRF It's fun to be in the KPRF, yeah You can live in the past You can get on the news You can stick it to all the Jews
Old man, are you listening to me? I said old man, what did you used to be? I said old man, you can come back today But you've got to know this one thing Old man, there's no much left of your health I said old man, put your teeth on the shelf And just go there to the KPRF And they'll give you new hope today
It's fun to be in the KPRF It's fun to be in the KPRF, yeah You'll have lots of good times With nice people your age And you won't even have to pay It's fun to be in the KPRF It's fun to be in the KPRF yeah You can be on TV You can march in parades You can read of the good old days
Old man, I was in the same boat I said old man, and I wasted my vote On some asshole, who bought a villa in Spain I thought the whole world was to blame It's time, for you to make a stand Even if you can no longer quite stand There's a party, it's called the KPRF They can bring back the past today
It's fun to be in the KPRF It's fun to be in the KPRF, yeah You'll have lots of good times With nice people your age And you won't even have to pay KPRF It's fun to be in the KPRF yeah Old man, old man, there's no reason to feel down Old man, old man, they'll get their's next time 'round KPRF You just go to the KPRF yeah Old man, old man, you could use some new shoes Old man, old man, if don't vote you lose KPRF... KPRF...

38 posted on 12/24/2006 4:37:23 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: A. Pole
in Germany ... the Communism was suppressed by Fascism

The first Communist takeover -- the Bavarian free state -- was put down by Weimar.

39 posted on 12/24/2006 5:04:43 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin2
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To: A. Pole
"I did not know that genotype can "protect" you from the surrounding culture. "
There are many things that you do not know. Individualistic genotype could, and does, protect from a collectivist civilization [it serves as a kind of immunization]. Even when given the tripartite division of society's life into economics, culture, and sociology [aka civilization] you still tend to confuse the last two. Culture is the stuff for ethnologists and archaeologists - songs, dance, national cuisine and pottery shards. Civilization [aka sociology] is how people relate to one another in socially important situations, how a given society self-preserves and self-reproduces as a sociologically distinct entity, the sociological aspects of weltanschauung, national character and predominant religions. Using the material familiar to you - Pushkin belongs to the russian culture, but has nothing to do with the russian civilization. His contemporary Nicholas I has nothing to do with the russian culture, but fully belongs to the russian civilization.
In other civilizations, Sir Winston Churchill, while active in both spheres, belongs much more to the cultural [belles lettres] than to civilizational aspect - his sociological trace is negligible. The opposite can be said of Disraeli - his writings are in the dust of history, but his techniques of party management [sociology of power] live on.
And as for my culture - by now I am multilingual and truly multicultural [not in the contemporary bastardized sense of the word], civilizationally - a Westerner by conscious adoption.
40 posted on 12/24/2006 5:05:00 PM PST by GSlob
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