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THE CASE FOR FLIP-FLOPPING (John Kerry alert!)
The Washington Post ^ | 12/24/2006 | John F. Kerry

Posted on 12/24/2006 6:53:58 AM PST by KCRW

There's something much worse than being accused of "flip-flopping": refusing to flip when it's obvious that your course of action is a flop.

I say this to President Bush as someone who learned the hard way how embracing the world's complexity can be twisted into a crude political shorthand. Barbed words can make for great politics. But with U.S. troops in Iraq in the middle of an escalating civil war, this is no time for politics. Refusing to change course for fear of the political fallout is not only dangerous -- it is immoral.

I'd rather explain a change of position any day than look a parent in the eye and tell them that their son or daughter had to die so that a broken policy could live.

No one should be looking for vindication in what is happening in Iraq today. The lesson here is not that some of us were right about Iraq or that some of us were wrong. The lesson is simply that we need to change course rapidly rather than perversely use mistakes already made and lives already given as an excuse to make more mistakes and lose even more lives

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flipflopping; french; hanoijohn; insufferable; iraq; jeanfrancois; kerry; loser; pinhead; traitor; unfit; wot
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To: KCRW
One more strand of barbed wire, would make Kerry's fence straddling extremely uncomfortable.
41 posted on 12/24/2006 9:16:04 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( BP agents Ramos and Compean, Patriots betrayed and persecuted for just doing their job!)
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To: KCRW
Attention John Kerry- YOU VOTED FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ!

And he was a signatory to that letter sent to X42 in October of 1998 by both houses of Congress, urging Bubba to do something about Saddam's WMD (I have a copy of the Congressional record with those names and their letter in my never-before nicotine stained fingers.)

42 posted on 12/24/2006 9:42:55 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Don't blame me - I didn't vote for these DEM b**tards. (redacted to satiate religioncop TXBlair))
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To: Dilbert56
LOL! John effin (aka Lurch) will never admit to ,or believe he lost the 2004 election ,cause his initials are J.F.K.! According to lurch this means he is ''destined'' to be the President. This is seared, SEARED into his memory. ( I fear for this guys sanity'' when he finds out the RATS(despise losers) and no longer want his services, and would just as soon he puts a bullet through his head than run again. But I'm sure he'll ignore the RATS wishes and run again anyway since he has no dignity whats so ever and no class to speak of!
43 posted on 12/24/2006 11:03:42 PM PST by Bush gal in LA
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To: KCRW
Hmmm, it looks as though Mister Kerry has been reading my tagline, folks. He concludes his piece (which is an objective lesson in how densely one can pack logical fallacies into one essay) with the following.

Ahem...When Churchill urged, "Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never -- in nothing, great or small, large or petty, never give in," he added: "except to convictions of honour and good sense."

This is a time for such convictions.

And, dear friends, his denouement is supposed to let us see the glorious shining path that (his euphemisms for) cutting and running makes good, Churchillian, sense.

Senator Kerry's surrender scheme is something up with which Sir Winston would never have put!

Mister Kerry's pretentiously "streaks" his ignorance with typical hubris.

Consider... The barrel of a gun can't answer the question of how you force Iraqi nationalism to trump sectarian loyalty. The only hope for stability lies in pushing Iraqis to forge a sustainable political agreement on federalism, distributing oil revenues and neutralizing sectarian militias. And that will happen only if we set a deadline to redeploy our troops.

So, in Mister Kerry's odd little mind, setting a deadline to (and there is no other word for this) surrender will somehow magically "push" the Iraqis to get along and share their oil wealth?

John Kerry, what if the bad guys said they told you they would do these things, but didn't mean it, hoping to take advantage of you because you trusted them?

Actually, Mister Kerry, I can give you a good example of how I suspect that this is really a con game that you are playing.

What if YOU told me and some of my fellow voters that you would sign a form 180 to release all of your military records (including the shadowy info on your Naval discharge circa 1972), and what if we believed you and voted for you, and then what if you didn't sign the form?

We would have taken an irrevocable action based on trust, and you would have really pulled on over on us, huh?

So, you provide an excellent bad example here, Senator Kerry. And, your candy-land proposal is beyond simple ignorance.

As an aside, why is it that malignant blamers such as John Kerry seem to think that they have ANY talent for diplomacy? Malignant blamers put counterparts on the defensive, and are the polar opposite of successful negotiators. Malignant blamers in official capacities are among the biggest liabilities that can afflict nation diplomatically.

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44 posted on 12/24/2006 11:24:27 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: B.O. Plenty

Sooo, tell us how you really feel about Kerry?



LOL, he sets me off too; not as much as Carter though, but then I'm 59 and Carter makes my blood pressure rise. Merry Christmas and a Bonne Anne!!


45 posted on 12/24/2006 11:48:18 PM PST by Atchafalaya (When you are there thats the best)
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To: KCRW
I wonder if John Kerry has ever spoken to any of the Iraqi leaders?

'Course not! He only talks to people with whom he has clout. Namely, any and every enemy of these United States.

No blog-- Don't have the time or the blood pressure to support it. Thanks for the compliments, though!

46 posted on 12/25/2006 12:09:59 AM PST by Egon (I stand beside you as your partner, in front as your defender, behind as... hey! nice butt!)
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To: KCRW

There truly is something very sad about any person who doesn't realize that he or she is irrelevant and has become yesterday's news. I guess it may have to wait until the democrat party primaries in 2008 before Kerry the loser admits what he is and always will be which is Kerry the loser.


47 posted on 12/25/2006 4:12:18 AM PST by saneright
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To: saneright

I forgot to mention that when referring to John Kerry the word loser she be spelled LOSER.


48 posted on 12/25/2006 4:15:19 AM PST by saneright
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To: KCRW
Look Theresa! The dolphins are playing!!


49 posted on 12/25/2006 6:20:53 AM PST by Hadean
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To: Atchafalaya
I am coming up on 70...Carter don't bother me at all.

Why???....because Carter is a tottering OLD POS with no real power.

Kerry Otoh, is a lot younger and nastier POS with some financial backing(if Teresa gives him some money) wielding considerable power due to his seat in the Senate.

Carter will croak soon, therefore doesn't have enough time, energy nor power to do us any harm at all. Carter has already done the most damage to the U.S. as he can. Fortunately for us, Pres Reagan undid a lot of it, but failed to deal with islam. Too bad for us.

F'n has 15 or 20 years in which he can do irrepairable damage to the U.S.

And.... he WILL damage us if he gets what he wants.....

Thus, the only peaceful way that we can get rid of him is that a richer, younger woman(or man) whisks him off to paradise, and out of our lives.

50 posted on 12/25/2006 7:07:44 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (liberalism, abortions and islam are terminal)
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To: avacado

'"The only hope for stability lies in pushing Iraqis to forge a sustainable political agreement on federalism, distributing oil revenues and neutralizing sectarian militias."

Fixed it.


51 posted on 12/25/2006 7:56:41 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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To: Egon

"Iran and Syria are counting the days until we leave the area. No amount of "conversation" with Syria is going to change their underlying goal of reshaping Iraq into an Islamic totalitarian state."

This is the difference between us and the rest of the world. The MSM created a "NOW" mentality where we live by the 24 hour news cycle. The rest of the world think in terms of decades.

If the US said that we are pulling troops out in 2015, the Iranians and Syrians would be patiently waiting for us to leave.


52 posted on 12/25/2006 8:00:52 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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To: Hadean

"Look Theresa! The dolphins are playing!!"

That's just wrong on all levels.. ROFLMAO


53 posted on 12/25/2006 8:01:40 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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To: Joe Boucher
I thought this lieing puke was going to sign the form to release ALL his military records.

He did. Problem being the geeky weasel signed three separate forms, each authorizing release to a single, friendly, "reporter". AFAIK, we've heard zip from any of them. None of them would probably recognize a bad conduct discharge if it bit them in the buttocks.

54 posted on 12/25/2006 6:03:35 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Egon
The only people you have ever taken a tough stance on are your fellow servicemen,

Bite your tongue, or slap yourself on the fingers. Darn few of them, if any, would claim him as a "fellow" anything.

55 posted on 12/25/2006 6:10:59 PM PST by El Gato
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To: F.J. Mitchell
One more strand of barbed razor wire, would make Kerry's fence straddling extremely uncomfortable.
56 posted on 12/25/2006 6:15:39 PM PST by El Gato
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To: Seaplaner
What if YOU told me and some of my fellow voters that you would sign a form 180 to release all of your military records (including the shadowy info on your Naval discharge circa 1972), and what if we believed you and voted for you, and then what if you didn't sign the form?

He's good at parsing his statements, just like Billy Jeff, the serial rapist. He did sign the form, releasing all the records. He never said, AFAIN, that he would release them to the general public. He released the records to three of his pet "reporters"/publicists. I don't recall hearing anything specific from any of them about the contents.

57 posted on 12/25/2006 6:18:32 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
LOL! Extreme measures for extremists. Excellent idea.
58 posted on 12/25/2006 7:26:29 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( Kerry, Graham and Dodd. The three amigo's........ of the terrorists.)
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To: KCRW

"No one should be looking for vindication in what is happening in Iraq today. The lesson here is not that some of us were right about Iraq or that some of us were wrong."

Has Kerry even looked at a left wing blog? This is all they care about.


59 posted on 12/25/2006 10:09:04 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: El Gato
Gato - -

I'm sure that you have your facts in better order than I.

I was under the impression that Mister Kerry had signed only a very selective form (180?) and specifically did not authorize disclosure of ~'72 discharge conditions.

Unfortunately, Mister Kerry is, politically speaking, le canard mort, as it would have been so much fun demanding info on his discharge from the Navy on a daily basis.

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60 posted on 12/25/2006 10:27:28 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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