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Disillusioned Western Men Seek to "Thai" the Knot (Western Women Are Wrecks)
SAWF NEWS ^ | 12/23/2006 | Pornchai Kittiwondsakul

Posted on 12/23/2006 5:15:33 PM PST by Dallas59

BANGKOK (AFP) - "I could not find anybody in the States. There was nothing in America for me. That's why I'm here," says the clean-cut 52-year-old bachelor, who bears a passing resemblance to Hollywood actor Michael Douglas.

Sullivan, an emergency nurse from Florida, is one of a growing number of foreign men seeking young and beautiful Thai brides via the Internet.

Speaking at the Bangkok office of Sweet Singles, a Thai bride-by-Internet company, Sullivan says he has decided to "go beyond boundaries" in his search for a wife after a futile quest in the United States.

"American women in my age are, basically, a wreck. They are physically and emotionally beaten up from relationships and life. They are untrusting," says the well-built Sullivan, sporting a pink shirt and white pants.

"I think the feminist movement in America in the 60s really trashed American feminism. American women lack a certain femininity about them that women of other countries have," he laughs.

Sullivan contacted Sweet Singles six months ago and was introduced to Yoshita Tongsalee, an attractive 27-year-old teacher of traditional Thai dancing.

After corresponding with her via e-mails for three weeks, Sullivan decided to meet her and flew to Bangkok in early December.

"Just from e-mails, I knew she was the one. I just knew," says the American, his emerald earring dazzling.

"I find Thai women in general to be less self-centered and more family-centered than I find in western women," he says. The couple plans to marry next year.

John, a 43-year-old Briton who got married to a Thai woman four years ago via an Internet bride agency, also has grievances about western women.

"English women are very demanding and they expect you to be good-looking and have plenty of money and give them lots of attention. They drink a lot and they smoke a lot and they eat a lot," says John, who declined to give his last name.

"I am not very good at getting women anyway. I'm not the best-looking guy in the world. I'm quite short and it's very hard for me to find an English woman who is shorter than me," he says on the telephone from London.

Before marrying his Thai bride, John dated six British women, but his relationships with them were anything but happy.

"I'm just fed up with British women. They are not so loyal," he says.

When he met six Thai ladies in Bangkok via the Internet, including a 32-year-old business woman who later became his wife, John says he was struck by their kindness and family-centered values.

"I think Thai women are more loyal to their husbands. They are not just 'take, take take.' Also they have old-fashioned family values, which we used to have in this country," he says. John and his wife now have two young boys.

John and Marc declined to say how much they paid to get their Thai wives. Sweet Singles says it can charge a foreign man up to 1,700 dollars for a three-year membership to meet Thai ladies.

Some 10,000 foreign men have signed up with Sweet Singles over the last decade, and nearly half of them were previously divorced, says Bee, the company's customer service manager.

Some 80 percent of them get married to Thai women through the agency.

Americans account for 60 percent of the company's male clients, with the rest mostly from Australia, Britain, Germany and Scandinavian countries. Their average age ranges from 55 to 60.

Some 20,000 Thai women have also joined Sweet Singles, with their ages ranging from 20 to 40. The company charges a Thai woman 700 baht (20 dollars) for membership.

Bee, a petite 40-something, says Thai woman often have a favorable impression of foreigners.

"Many Thai girls were disappointed by Thai men who are famous for womanizing, drinking and gambling. Thai woman believe Caucasian men are more responsible and sincere and not playing around with other women," she says.

Thanitchaya Buaban, a striking 26-year-old beauty from Thailand's northern tourist spot of Chiang Mai, says she used to have a Thai boyfriend but he cheated on her many times.

"I was heart-broken. After I joined Sweet Singles, I started meeting foreigners and they were very kind and polite," she says at the firm's office.

Thanitchaya says she now has many American suitors who are trying to win her love with diamond rings and necklaces.

"I'm going to choose the best one," she says with a big smile.

For Sullivan's fiancee Yoshita, her experiences with Thai men were more traumatic.

"I was planning to marry my first Thai boyfriend, but he did not show up on our wedding day. He embarrassed me and my family," Yoshita says. "My second boyfriend cheated on me and impregnated another woman."

But Yoshita, who wears a golden heart necklace, says she is looking forward to living in Florida with the man of her dreams -- even if she still refers to him by his last name.

"I believe Mr Sullivan is a gift from God. He is really a good man and respects me. Every day I pray and thank Buddha for giving me Mr Sullivan," she says.

Sullivan nodded and held her hand.

"I have to step outside my own culture to find someone with whom I am compatible. I am not narrow-minded in that regard," he smiles.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: asianbrides; dating; mailorderbrides; marriage; sexes; single; thailand
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To: cammie
I can darn socks, but it's only worthwhile if the socks are good wool ones.

Tonight's dinner was...perfect creamy stone-ground grits, pulled pork, collards with heavy garlic, and gravy from the pork butt drippings.

381 posted on 12/23/2006 8:49:49 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: null and void
Get a couple kids

See my post 340. :)

382 posted on 12/23/2006 8:50:22 PM PST by Bronzewound
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To: paulat
Wimpy little men let it happen.

Dearie, men will do anything to get laid.

If there was no demand for wimpy little men, there would be NO supply..

383 posted on 12/23/2006 8:50:27 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
You're so nasty, baby....

...Thanks, "Toes So Foul"!!!

384 posted on 12/23/2006 8:50:34 PM PST by paulat
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To: Cogadh na Sith

You too, sincerely, not snarky...what are you still doing wrapping gifts, dude? You need a woman to do that for you...LOL>


385 posted on 12/23/2006 8:50:45 PM PST by cammie
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To: Tainan
This thread certainly does not portray Freepers in the best light.

LOL!  Just another "He-man woman haters club" thread.

 

386 posted on 12/23/2006 8:51:20 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: cammie
"And some of the male comments aren't shrill? Or is shrill a comment reserved for us mouthy women?"

There are obnoxious, if not shrill, male comments on the thread, but since the article isn't about the undesirability of American male partners, they don't elicit the same irony.

I don't buy that there's a problem with American females, except maybe some leftist ones. Even the liberal ladies that I 've met seem pleasant enough.

As for Asian ladies, I don't know any, so can't comment.

387 posted on 12/23/2006 8:51:43 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: paulat

388 posted on 12/23/2006 8:52:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: cammie

any bets he wants a woman that he can beat and who won't go running to the police?


389 posted on 12/23/2006 8:52:32 PM PST by annelizly
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To: Thumper1960

I grew up in the Mennonite Church in MOntezuma Kansas, they had arranged marriages, not all of them, but some to women in California, Mexico and South America.

Next time you do the same.


390 posted on 12/23/2006 8:52:46 PM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Dallas59

I find plenty of decent american chicks, just need to be real.


391 posted on 12/23/2006 8:53:49 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Merry Christmas! SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: Revolting cat!

;)

....meow...purrr!!!


392 posted on 12/23/2006 8:53:50 PM PST by paulat
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To: vox humana
Thai woman believe Caucasian men are more responsible and sincere and not playing around with other women.

LOL

If they only knew...

Actually they are right. As much as western men play around, it's not an institutional thing like it is for Thai men of substance. For them, it is a matter of face to have mistresses.

393 posted on 12/23/2006 8:54:38 PM PST by Northern Alliance
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To: Revolting cat!

Friend, anyone who spends real money on their socks is a bloody idiot. And any woman who judges a man on the manufacturing quality of his socks deserves what she gets. (Caveat: dirty socks or socks with holes in them are, however, a BIG turn-off). I, and most women I know, couldn't tell a Ralph Lauren sock from a Ralph Malph sock.

IMHO, Walmart was made for the express purpose of sock purchasing.


394 posted on 12/23/2006 8:54:44 PM PST by cammie
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To: paulat

hi


395 posted on 12/23/2006 8:56:18 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Merry Christmas! SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: cammie

Jerry Lewis never wears the same socks twice.

LADY!


396 posted on 12/23/2006 8:57:55 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: annelizly
any bets he wants a woman that he can beat and who won't go running to the police?

Beat a Thai woman and you will end up with her pulling out a knife and killing you. That is the way it works here. Western women have nothing on Asian women when it comes to vindictive violence.

397 posted on 12/23/2006 8:58:07 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: annelizly

Yeah, that thought crossed my mind as well. Either beat or some other undesireable thing... But then I thought that, even though I'm, let's see - coarse, bitter, angry, shrill, a fussbudget, a "female attorney", among other things -- was an accusation I wouldn't make.

But since you did... :-)


398 posted on 12/23/2006 8:58:30 PM PST by cammie
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To: cammie
Friend, anyone who spends real money on their socks is a bloody idiot.

Ever go hiking?

399 posted on 12/23/2006 8:58:49 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: Incorrigible

400 posted on 12/23/2006 8:59:16 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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