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David Irving: Jews should ask themselves why they are hated
Haaretz ^ | December 23, 2006 | Amiram Barkat

Posted on 12/23/2006 1:58:30 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Holocaust denier David Irving on Friday said Jews should ask themselves why they have been hated throughout history.

"They [Jews] should ask themselves the question, 'Why have they been so hated for 3000 years that there has been pogrom after pogrom in country after country?', said Irving, speaking at a press conference he convened in England on Friday, a day after he was released from an Austrian prison.

Irving, who was sentenced to three years in prison for denying the Holocaust, was released last week after his appeal was granted.

Asked if he sees himself as anti-Semitic, Irving said, "No, I like to think I am not."

But immediately following his answer, Irving expressed his support for Mel Gibson's comments that "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world."

Irving also took pride in the success of his books and claimed that he the fortune he made from sales of his biography on World War II German General Erwin Rommel enabled him to walk into a car showroom with a paper bag stuffed with cash to buy a "Nigger brown Rolls-Royce."

Irving's comments aroused great anger within Britain's Jewish community.

Lord Janner, president of the Holocaust Educational Trust, said Irving's release was "unwarranted" and that Irving's "latest comments were totally to be expected and should be totally ignored."

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: antijew; antisemitism; davidirving; hatespeech; holocaust; irving; nazi; racist; stuckonstupid
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To: nmh

"WHY DO PEOPLE HATE JEWS?"

Because they are 89% DEMOCRAT,Leftist commie liberals.


221 posted on 12/24/2006 7:36:40 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: William Terrell

A persuasive argument can be made that Jews haven't been treated worse than other minorities radically different from host majorities. The Jews just miraculously live to tell about it.

Civilizations and cultures come and go, displaced by others, usually for some type of material gain. In recent times, we edge close to the disappearance of Kurds, Basques, Assyrians, Ainu and American Indians. The destroyers of Jewish culture just haven't been as successful.


222 posted on 12/24/2006 7:40:35 AM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: rbg81

"The fact that they call themselves "The Chosen People" doesn't help."

I think you'll find other religious persuasions that also call themselves something similar. Every religous group thinks that they alone are chosen by God.


223 posted on 12/24/2006 7:43:34 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: rbg81
I think another reason Jews are hated is that they have been family centered first and didn't have to depend on a "community" for their success. From the earliest Jews have been nomadic and have fled many countries and anti-semetic cultures time and time and time again.

Therefore the Jews became more than wise with this lifestyle, since they were run from countries, cities over many years they became very efficient with ways to earn income.

One excellent way to become successful is to develop a lifestyle that can be easily picked up and moved...generally being a doctor, lawyer and money lender allowed that freedom. Whereas being having a living that required assets could be stressful...hard to flee a town with the assets but you can always flee with your intellect.

So over a period of time, Jews were eyed with distrust because when they would enter a a non Jewish culture, they brought their intellect, they brought "services" that could not be stolen, or destroyed. The doctors, lawyers and money lenders could easily pack up and move on, and this left communities that were stuck with one and other resentful because needed services that the Jews had brought could simply pack up and move on.

224 posted on 12/24/2006 7:43:57 AM PST by antivenom (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much damn space!)
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To: hlmencken3
Logic would seem to indicate that the methods they use to live to tell about it would be the reason they are expelled. I wouldn't think money has much to do with it.

225 posted on 12/24/2006 7:44:56 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

A Russian Tzarist official once came to the saintly Rabbi Itzele of Volozhin and teasingly said, "You Jews say in your prayers 'All the nations will praise G-d for His kindliness done to us [Jews]'."

"Why," he then asked, "Should the nations praise G-d for the kindnesses that G-d does to the Jews?"

"Because," Rabbi Itzele responded, "You non-Jews know better than any Jew how many of you hate Jews in your own hearts, how many of you would deny to the Jews what is rightfully theirs. You in the government know how many plans for conversion, persecution and murder you have dreamt of that were so unsuccessful that no Jew ever heard of them. And you see better than any Jew how wonderously Jews thrive with the help of G-d despite your intentions."


226 posted on 12/24/2006 8:00:14 AM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: All

It is ironic that most of the posts in this thread would be also be considered anti-semitic by the ADL. In today's PC world, proclaiming that a group of people have different behaviors and characteristics either genetically or culturally is considered bigoted.


227 posted on 12/24/2006 8:44:00 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Joe Boucher
it will perish.

Israel will not perish, her enemies will.
228 posted on 12/24/2006 8:46:44 AM PST by do the dhue (How come the Demorats have not fixed Iraq yet? They're inept!! Vote 'em out!!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Let them hate, so long as they fear.


229 posted on 12/24/2006 8:47:18 AM PST by magslinger (An open mind is like an outhouse. Sooner or later someone is going to fill it.)
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To: bkepley

If you watch American TV today, it's white middle class men who are the despised ones. (Including Jewish white middle class men, undoubtedly, but not limited to them -- the hatred is directed toward the white and the male factors). White middle class men are the criminals in the TV drama shows, the abusers on the TV psychiatry/psychology shows, the butt of jokes on the TV comedy shows, the poor slob boobs on the TV commercials.


230 posted on 12/24/2006 8:56:24 AM PST by freedomdefender
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To: Joe Boucher

Yes, I too, saw the tattoo on the wrist of an elderly woman who lost her entire family at the hands of the Nazis. I was told that she "wasn't quite right" because of the horrors she witnessed. I never forgot that. A neighbor of my uncle, who lived next to them in Warsaw, told of watching his wife and child gunned down in the streets. They each had taken one of their children and ran in an attempt to hide from the Nazis when they came looking for them. He was hiding in a basement when he witnessed the murder of his wife and child. It is impossible for Muslims or Nazis to disavow the genocide of not only Jews but millions of people. All this evil grew while the world slept. IMO, the world is at sleep again.


231 posted on 12/24/2006 8:58:14 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: hlmencken3
Intriging. What means "rightfully theirs"?

It appears to me that God has not blessed Jews over the millennia, beyond allowing a relative small number to survive. But, in all meanings "Jew" refers to a member of the tribe of Judah. Shouldn't the the reference be to Israelites?

232 posted on 12/24/2006 9:26:23 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I don't think the world is asleep, just have turned their backs or put their heads in the sand.
Jews weren't the only group an awful lot of gypsies lost their lives to the Germans too. And everyone knows that Russians lost the most to them.
I still don't understand just what it is that makes Jews the chosen ones to hate in this world and for so long.
Seems every group has been the boogie man at some time or another.
I could see if maybe they were a drag on society like welfare recipients for multiple generations or killers again for multiple generations but hate them for being successful? For trying to do well in school? For making the best doctors? Or owning their own businesses.
Ah well guess I'm just not smart enought to get it.
But then I've been accused of not being too smart on many occations.
Oh well Be safe, have fun and Merry Christmas and Happy Chaunaka.
GOD bless.


233 posted on 12/24/2006 10:41:30 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I don't think this topic is appropriate for Christmas, but since it is here I will add that some Jews can be pretty hateful themselves. It is almost as if they believe they have a free pass to be bigots. However, I doubt the subject can or will be discussed rationally.


234 posted on 12/24/2006 10:47:49 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: West Coast Conservative
I am not Jewish, but I do believe some where back in time I had some Jewish roots as we all did at one time.I feel they do not hate them selves yet sometimes they feel lonely in the world when they only want to live in an area the size of Rode Island and are not even held to peace for that. This Christmas Eve we must look at where we all came from and the fact that our Lord was raised in the laws of Moses. We are all equal in one thing we all long for the love that God gives us all . Merry Christmas from a Christian.
235 posted on 12/24/2006 11:07:15 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: do the dhue

I'd like to think so but not if they sit on their asses while the palis lob missles in on them. Not if Olmert gives away their country. Not if Olmert gives away the Golan to Syria from which Syria can watch all of Israel and shoot down on them.He who owns the high ground rules the battle.
But hey, just read your bible and have faith.


236 posted on 12/24/2006 11:11:19 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Soothesayer
The Jews are hated because many of them are generally better than a lot of other people. They have comprised most of the greatest beings in the history of the world. Therefore, people are very jealous of them and want to get rid of them.

"everybody hates Jews"


Both statements are about as ignorant and inciteful as one can get.


On top of which they represent pure unadulterated B.S.


There are ratty and rotten Jews who among other things prostitute young Russian Girls in Brothels within Israel after promising them a better life than in Russia, There are Crooked thuggish Jews who lead and create movements like the Communist Party responsible for the murder of more people around the world than any other movement in history, Stupid Ignorant Zenophobic Jews along with Caring Compassionate Intelligent, Articulate Jews...Jews with great personal integrity and courage like the 6 Tank Crews who with God's blessing stood alone in American Built and provided M60 Tanks defeating 10 times their number of Islamofacists in their tanks during the Yom Kippor War saving their nation when nothing more stood between the Israelites and defeat.The enemy's sole purpose of invasion being to murder Jews and to deny them their rightful heritage the State of Israel.

Just like every other group of people in the world there are good and bad...


W
237 posted on 12/24/2006 2:57:13 PM PST by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: William Terrell

'Rightfully theirs' - the fruits of their labor without confiscation or expulsion.

The Book of Esther contains the first use of the generic term 'Jew' when refering to Mordechai of the tribe of Benjamin.

Many Jews also believe that Jewish survival has not been a blessing.


238 posted on 12/24/2006 5:14:44 PM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Here's a better question. Why is it that Jews openly practice self-destruction?? The DemonRats favor the the destruction of Israel. Jews vote for DemonRats 87% of the time.

Why do Jews seemingly do things which are counter-productive to them as a people???? Stupidity??

239 posted on 12/24/2006 5:21:17 PM PST by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: Continental Soldier

Why? Some of it originated in anti-Jewish teachings of the Church Fathers, I am afraid to say, which several states adopted as official policy. Fortunately, Christian anti-Semitism is waning - and then there is Jimmah Carter, an anti-Semite if there ever was one. As for Mel Gibson, he is the son of a Holocaust denier who also believes that Jews are "Christ killers" and is angry at the Popes who say otherwise.


240 posted on 12/24/2006 5:27:21 PM PST by juliej ( - vote GOP!)
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