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Assault weapons don't belong in civilian hands (MA)
The Standard-Times ^ | December 22, 2006 | Meathead Editorial

Posted on 12/22/2006 10:15:46 AM PST by neverdem

It is long past time for the state Legislature and Congress to enact more effective bans on high-powered, military-style assault weapons.

New Bedford police were overpowered and outgunned when they went to the Foxy Lady strip club last week to respond to a domestic violence incident that turned into a deadly and frightening rampage.

The gunman, Scott Medeiros of Freetown, had obtained a Class A license more than a decade ago that allowed him to purchase any legal gun in the state, including the AR-15, a military-style semiautomatic assault rifle that is banned in California.

It is true that without the AR-15 rifle, Mr. Medeiros still might have used deadly force to kill the two Foxy Lady employees he apparently intended to murder. But he would not have overpowered police on patrol. And as one letter writer pointed out this week, "He definitely would not have been able to accomplish the life-threatening terror that took place outside the club."

We applaud New Bedford Mayor Scott W. Lang for urging legislators from SouthCoast to push for a more effective assault weapons ban in the state, and we urge him to use his influence with our congressional delegation to revisit the federal assault weapons ban that was allowed to lapse in 2004 under the Republican-controlled Congress.

Massachusetts is such a small state and so near states with much weaker gun laws that a stronger federal policy on assault weapons is necessary to protect the Bay State.

The 10-year federal ban halted the manufacture of 19 of the most deadly military-style assault weapons and banned their sale across the nation. Critics say there were significant loopholes in that ban. For example, the weapon used by Mr. Medeiros was banned only when it included certain components, such as a bayonet, flash suppressor and other devices, according to Freetown Police Chief Carlton Abbott. The basic weapon designed to replicate the military M-16 was still for sale across much of the nation.

Chief Abbott agrees with Mayor Lang that it is time to revisit regulations on assault weapons. He also suggests that the state re-examine classifications of gun licenses. Under current law, anyone with a Class A or Class B license can purchase a military-style assault weapon.

Weapons bans open up a raging debate about the meaning of the Second Amendment "right to bear arms." But this debate should not keep us from looking at the disturbing reality that it is too easy for civilians to purchase and use weapons designed only to kill and terrorize people, weapons that provide a civilian with more firepower than local city and town police. We must then enact sensible regulations to protect all law-abiding citizens, whether or not they choose to own a gun.


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To: paul51

I could go with it, but it ain't going to happen. :(


61 posted on 12/22/2006 11:19:36 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: skepsel

The original US assault weapon of WWI was the trench shotgun.


62 posted on 12/22/2006 11:22:34 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist
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To: patton

Well a percussion cap pistol is considered a BP antique .... a percussion cap used to ignite a cannon would be antique as well.


63 posted on 12/22/2006 11:22:45 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Gov't: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it)
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To: MarkL

Stock up with all you can get..they are coming after
us,and we will have to kill he bastards...JK


64 posted on 12/22/2006 11:23:14 AM PST by sanjacjake
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To: neverdem
N.B. for the clueless, the ammunition for the AR-15, M-16, AK-47, etc. was intentionally designed not to be high-powered.

Actually, that's not quite right. While the 7.62mm Russian was designed for the (Soviet) military as a less powerful round than the round used in a battle rifle, it's still a "high power" rifle cartridge.

On the other hand, the 5.56mm NATO, or .223 Remington was originally designed as an improved high powered varmint cartridge, although it was specifically designed to be used in Eugene Stoner's Armalite rifles.

Both of these ARE considered to be "high power" cartridges, however, they're not as powerful as the cartridges generally fired from "battle rifles."

Mark

65 posted on 12/22/2006 11:26:40 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Diamond
Forgive me, but what is an "assault" weapon, as opposed to just a "weapon"? The word "assault" is used to describe "weapon" nine times in the article. What's the difference?

The term "assault weapon" is a pejorative, inflammatory term meant to evoke an irrational emotional response in the reader, in order to prepare him or her for draconian gun-confiscation laws. It is also a meaningless term, as the correct term "assault rifle" refers to a firearm with full-auto capabilities, which are heavily restricted.

In my book, an assault weapon is something used in an assault, such as this evil, wicked device, sold by merchants of death (Lowes, Home Depot):


66 posted on 12/22/2006 11:30:23 AM PST by Disambiguator (This tagline is brought to you by the letter "S" with a slash in front of it.)
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To: Disambiguator

That's the infamous H16-R assault weapon (Hammer, 16 ounce, ripping). I think only rubber hammers are legal in California. Not the hard rubber ones, only the ones that squeak when you hit something.


67 posted on 12/22/2006 11:35:51 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: USMCPOP

It's more infamous than that. It's the high-capacity 28 oz version.


68 posted on 12/22/2006 11:37:43 AM PST by Disambiguator (This tagline is brought to you by the letter "S" with a slash in front of it.)
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To: neverdem

Unbelievable...

Here we flippin' go again...

You'd have thought they would have waited till Hillary gets the office in '08...

But nooooooooo...

Somehow I just don't have a warm and fuzzy that there's a pen ready to VETO something like this thats being warmed up for the next Congress...


69 posted on 12/22/2006 11:39:56 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Disambiguator

Then it's a main battle hammer, not an assault hammer. Better known as a Battle Facilitating Hammer, or "BFH".


70 posted on 12/22/2006 11:40:47 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: neverdem; All
Used in the criminal act of assault, as a weapon, a fry pan or ashtray or X-box controller is an assault weapon.
An M-4 carbine with all of the goodies a Picatinny can hold, NOT used to criminally assault anyone is not an Assault weapon, but rather a mechanical collection of metal and plastics that look cool and may loudly punch holes in cardboard or paper for fun.

Won't some one save me from these miniminded morons of the adminiturds cabal.
71 posted on 12/22/2006 11:47:51 AM PST by Gideon Reader (Time for some serious Lagavulin sipping and a little Stan Getz to cool out with.)
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To: Dead Corpse
The gun banners won't make the same mistake again to arbitrarily classify features such as flash hiders, bayonet lugs etc.

This time they will go for the kill; they will outlaw semi autos, they will outlaw mags, they will try to outlaw ammo that can penetrate anything (like a deer).

The second coming of the AWB under the Democrats will be the kiss of death for legal semi auto ownership. Hopefully they will overreach so badly that it backfires.

72 posted on 12/22/2006 11:50:45 AM PST by Sender ("How do you know what the fish think? You're not a fish." -Hui Zi)
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To: Sender
It's worse than that. If Kennedy and his ilk get their way, not only will certain features be banned, but they will include a performance standard. Anything that could defeat a Class IIa soft armor vest will be reclassified as "armor piercing". The uneducated will go along with that knowing nothing about ballistics.

This will have the effect of banning anything more powerful than a .22 rimfire.

That is their goal...

73 posted on 12/22/2006 11:53:27 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: neverdem

High powered is my M1 Garand(s)....


74 posted on 12/22/2006 11:54:41 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Disambiguator

Hey! I got a couple of these...one with a smooth peen face and a serrated one for pinheads (uh...I mean nails.....)


75 posted on 12/22/2006 11:56:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Make sure you register them with the proper authorities!

/sarc


76 posted on 12/22/2006 11:58:16 AM PST by Disambiguator (This tagline is brought to you by the letter "S" with a slash in front of it.)
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To: Joe Brower

77 posted on 12/22/2006 12:03:05 PM PST by glock rocks (tagline, we don't need no steenkin tagline)
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To: Joe Brower; neverdem

Armed_jews


78 posted on 12/22/2006 12:14:47 PM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: neverdem
Romney favors "Assault" Weapons Ban

• "He [Romney] is a supporter of the federal assault weapons ban."
- Romney 2002 campaign website Romney Favors Waiting Periods

• Regarding the Brady Bill which required waiting periods to buy a handgun, Romney stated, "I don’t think [the waiting period] will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect."
- Boston Herald, 8/1/1994

Although I am sure his position has changed now that he is pretending to be a conservative.

79 posted on 12/22/2006 12:20:39 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: backhoe

Always good to see Oleg's work.


80 posted on 12/22/2006 12:21:47 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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