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To: FreedomCalls
No knock raid. 'Beware of Dog' sign out. Searching for 'guns.' No guns found, family dog shot instead. "Oops, sorry 'bout that."

They were outside in the yard and had not yet gotten to the door. What were they supposed to 'knock' on? The sidewalk? The dog was loose and was shot off the owner's property. They did retreat and the dog was not fenced or under anyone's control, as he should have been. This was not a 'raid', they were not just out randomly 'searching for guns' they were investigating a gun complaint. The details of that complaint were not given here.

I'm not saying it was a justified shoot, but please, lets stick to the actual facts presented (of which there are not many) when drawing transparent preconceived anti-cop conclusions about it, OK?

20 posted on 12/21/2006 7:42:51 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Stop with all of the logic please. Lets stick to the knee jerk reactions.


28 posted on 12/21/2006 7:49:16 PM PST by Dave278
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To: HairOfTheDog
Well since you want to stick to the "facts", the article does not say the dog was shot outside the fence. That detail is omitted. So right now it is not a "fact".
34 posted on 12/21/2006 7:51:47 PM PST by Artemis Webb (All Truth is God's Truth...regardless of the source.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
"What were they supposed to 'knock' on? The sidewalk?"

The kid and her dog were on the porch. Think it would have been too much trouble to ask permission from her? or at least ask her to put the dog inside or chain it instead of ignoring the "beware of dog" sign and just walking into the yard?

PS. the article doesn't say if the yard was fenced or not, so you can't assume it wasn't. It did say there was a sign. Any way you slice it, this looks very bad for the cops involved.
168 posted on 12/22/2006 9:05:45 AM PST by monday
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To: HairOfTheDog

--but please, lets stick to the actual facts presented --

Are you trying to rain on their parade?


203 posted on 12/22/2006 12:25:53 PM PST by UpAllNight
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To: HairOfTheDog
....drawing transparent preconceived anti-cop conclusions about it, OK?

Why are you so quick to come to the defense of a 'government' organization? Last time I checked, police were part of government. Is it because they "protect" us? Did they protect the girl? Did they protect the neighbors from GUNs (oooohhh, shiver...)?

Cops are people and make mistakes. Unfortunately, the police ranks are filled with immature males that need some aging to ripen. They are capable, fit, and have a good head on their shoulders, but the macho instinct can often lead to things like this. These people are lucky they don't live in Atlanta w here they shoot 88 year old women and then try to cover it up...

221 posted on 12/22/2006 1:16:11 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: HairOfTheDog

Such quick conclusions are almost a natural because of the police penchant for killing peoples' pets. It is SOP in any raid and is NOT limited to dogs. Cats suffer less because they are smaller and tend to run away very rapidly.


251 posted on 12/22/2006 4:32:35 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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