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Posted on 12/19/2006 3:59:27 PM PST by Paul8148

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To: Calpernia

WRONG......YOU posted it to FR. Ergo, YOU are the one who promulgated a lie.


201 posted on 12/19/2006 8:50:34 PM PST by nopardons
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The 2008 Presidential race could be a redux of Corker vs. Ford. Conservatives, unsatisfied with the big 3 (McCain, Mitt, & Rudy), and become apathetic. Then the RAT candidate runs to the right of the Republican. The RAT even appears in the church pews and praises Reagan. I don't see Hillary pulling that off. But Obama can.


202 posted on 12/19/2006 8:51:48 PM PST by Kuksool (I learned more about political science on FR than in college)
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To: nopardons

Wrong. I can only 'promulgate' what is known to be false.

Here, you have a problem with that websites content, you call them.

S.V.A. Office telephone: (212) 6-27-1969


203 posted on 12/19/2006 8:55:36 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: My GOP

Sorry, my Liberal friend.

That dog won't hunt.

You see, I'm taking candidates based on their positions on several issues, including the WOT. Using that formula, Rudy finished last, being correct (assumed correct) on only the WOT issue.

Many, many, many other Republicans would fight a tough WOT, not just Rudy. Your attempts to sell Rudy as the only individual in America who can fight the terrorists is bogus.

You are a one-issue fringe voter. I have many, many important issues that I measure candidates on. By your own admission, the WOT matters and just about nothing else.

Rudy is right on one issue, the WOT. So are many Republican candidates - and most of them are right on more than one issue, unlike Rudy.

There is nothing CONSERVATIVE about you. You may be a Liberal into Republicanism or Libertarianism, but you are no Conservative. You're just a hawkish Liberal, IMHO.


204 posted on 12/19/2006 8:58:00 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: Torie

Naah, I doubt I'm nowhere near the top. Barone could have me for breakfast. I always wondered why gay activists have never tried to claim Buchanan as their own (at least as they've tried to do with Lincoln, where there truly is little evidence of homosexuality -- even the term "Log Cabin Republican" is rather offensive, since, after all, if every man who had to share a bed with another in the 19th century while far from home, then perhaps better than 3/4ths or higher of those laborers would be ready to pen a torrid Victorian-era "Brokeback Mountain" screed. Seems to me if ole Abe slid his Lincoln log into a fellow railsplitter, they would've found his corpse floating belly-up in the Wabash). But back to Abe's predecessor for a moment, here was a relatively accomplished fella, Northern, Democrat, good hair, but the downside was his (alleged) affair with a prominent slave owner, his pro-slave views, and the fact that he was generally considered the worst President in American history (or at least in the 19th century -- though if Fremont had beaten Buchanan, he probably would've had similar rotten luck). I guess that's why the gay rights folks chose to project their dreams upon his successor instead...


205 posted on 12/19/2006 8:58:05 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: aft_lizard

Giuliani is NOT 1/4 conservative. He is liberal every way but crime and maybe defense. And right now I have my doubts that any Republican can do defense. All of the available Republicans, probably even Gingrich will be hampered by having to look over their shoulders to see if the Democrats approve what they are doing. I expect that Mrs. Bill will bring a conclusive end to the Islamic War by destroying the enemy. It won't happen until she realizes that her allies in Iran have betrayed her personally when they have destroyed a couple of American cities but she will then turn Iran, and probably Pakistan, at least, into utterly sterile desert. A Naive Leftist's rage is probably the wildest and most potent force on earth if it controls nukes and a leftist dose not care what the other side thinks or what her own side thinks if she feels betrayed. A Republican will not have diverted Homeland Security to hounding Christians and will probably prevent major attacks against America proper for a few years but will allow Islamicization of the rest of the world and eventually of America because we need all those Moslems to immigrate. The war will continue in the current desultory fashion. Iran will destroy Israel and the Republican will still be concerned with Hearts-and-Minds.


206 posted on 12/19/2006 9:00:03 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Torie

Hey, we got shifted to the backroom ! The mods must be having the vapors from this thread.


207 posted on 12/19/2006 9:02:55 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Kuksool

Hmm, though Corker still managed to win in the end. I'm just hoping for a good solid dark horse candidate this year... like Sanford or Herman Cain. ;-D


208 posted on 12/19/2006 9:04:30 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Calpernia
I just went to that website and guess what? After reading much of it, I can't find a single mention , not a one, that Rudy Giulliani was a female clothed dancer, in drag queen makeup, who was performing there in 1969.

But they did mention that they admired Bette Davis, Lana Turner, Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor,and Judy Garland. By your way of thinking, that would make of of these women lesbians.

Just about every single N.Y, politician, GOPer or Dem, current or not, is listed there, because of congratulatory mentions on an anniversary. IT'S WHAT POLITICOS DO!

Soooooooooo, who is YOUR best liked, hat thrown into the ring GOP primary candidate? Do you have one, or are you yearning for some white knight to appear, out of pink colored smoke and a shower of rose petals ?

209 posted on 12/19/2006 9:07:16 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Frank Keating

And you are wrong. Go back to my links. Rudy is a member because he was there.

Everything is sourced. And if you make a donation and sign on for the newsletters, you will get even more information.

Sorry. But the information is out there and published. You just have to get into the gay info network to get it.

Night.


210 posted on 12/19/2006 9:11:42 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: TitansAFC
Rudy is a KNOWN tax cutter. I guess you aren't for having your taxes cut.

He is also for a smaller government, a feat he has already preformed in N.Y.C.; a near impossible task. I guess that you are for bigger and bigger and BIGGER governments.

Rudy wants Justices such as Scalia and Roberts and Alito on the bench, at the SCOTUS. Too bad, I guess you'd rather have Ginsberg clones.

Yes, he IS for winning the WOT and unlike McCain and Hillary and he means it! I guess that you want to cut and run.

Rudy has shown that he can stand up against the teachers unions and win. You don't like that either, I guess.

Please go read the Admin Mod's Sunday night thread. You really need to stop the name calling; the powers that be here, are going to start suspending those who engage in it.

211 posted on 12/19/2006 9:13:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I don't have the stomach to read this thread much, but I can guess that the circular firing squad is forming. And those who unknowingly killed the chance of the Reps winning the house and senate are now insisting on candidates so out of the mainstream that control is a long lost dream. So, make fun of Rudy, who can get votes, and instead, long for real proven losers like Keyes.

BTW, go find or rent "Decalouge" by Kieslowski. 10 one hour dramas around a theme, its brilliant filmaking, you will appreciate it.


212 posted on 12/19/2006 9:15:16 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: arthurus
Oh, I get it, cutting taxes and cutting the size of government is LIBERAL. Thanks for telling me that. ;^)
213 posted on 12/19/2006 9:15:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Central Scrutiniser

This thread is rather relaxed actually. But then I participated in it actively. :) Cheers. I hope this finds you well. So much will be "resolved" in the next election, maybe, at least when it comes to the look and face of the GOP. I look forward to it. There really is an itch when an incumbent wins a second term, typically.


214 posted on 12/19/2006 9:18:53 PM PST by Torie
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To: Calpernia
Okay, I'm blind, how about YOU go and find where that site states that Rudy was at Stonewall, hired as a drag queen dancer and who fought the cops in 1960. Pull up his rap sheet, his mug shot, and then tell me HOW, with a record, he was allowed to be the DA and not just the DA, but the one who went after the MOB. Come on.....evidently YOU know exactly where to find all of that stuff...right?

Frank Keating? Another nobody from nowhere, with NO chance. LOL

215 posted on 12/19/2006 9:20:35 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TitansAFC

No I'm conservative. I'm pro-life and against gay marriage. However, I'm not worried about gays like you are because they don't affect my life. And the President has very little influence over abortion. We have a pro-life President now but we're still having abortions. I hope Roe v Wade gets overturned but I realize even if it does, abortions will still occur. It will become a state issue again, which is what is should be, and NY and California are going to have abortion on demand and we won't be able to stop it. Back to Rudy. Rudy is right on several issues. He supports tax cuts(he cut 23 taxes as Mayor), his fiscially responsible(as Mayor he turned a deficit into a surplus), restored NYC's economy, is a conservative domesitically(he fought crime and reformed welfare cutting 600,000 off welfare) and has openly supported strict constructionist judges that won't legislate from the bench. By saying Rudy is only right on one issue, you are either lying or ignorant(maybe both who knows). I care about all these issues, not just WOT/foreign policy. I'm no Joe Liberman. Go back and read my original post. I mentioned all of these but you conviently forgot. However, I do feel that the WOT and foreign policy are the most important issues and I feel Rudy would be the best on these issues of ANY candidate. He's a very competent and natural leader and would make a terrific Commander in Chief. I never said that Rudy is the only Republican that would do a good job on the WOT and in foreign policy. Not once. I just can't understand, now that I know you think that Rudy is right on the WOT/foreign policy why you would vote for Hillary over Rudy when Hillary is dead wrong on WOT/foreign policy. That's why I've been harping on those issues the last few post. I can't believe you worry more about gays than terrorist. You did forget one thing in your formula; electability and IMO Rudy is our most electable candidate in the general election. Are there candidates out there I agree with more than Rudy? Sure. Do I think they can win? Absolutely no way! Life is sometimes about compromises and that's very true in politics. You will never have a President you agree with 100% of the time. With Rudy, you get about 80% of what you want(the most important 80% and the 80% the President has the most influence on). If we nominate someone else, we might get 99% of what we want but that someone else won't beat Hillary and with Hillary we get absolutely nothing, maybe even negative numbers here. So give me the competent, natural born leader, that gives me the most important 80%. I hope you understand where I'm coming from now. Have a good night and great Christmas.


216 posted on 12/19/2006 9:23:06 PM PST by My GOP
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Yes, only worse. Now, Rudy is supposed to have been a drag queen dancer at Stonewall, who fought with the cops. ROTFLOL

Thanks for the suggestion; that movie sounds really, REALLY good and something I will enjoy a lot. :-)

217 posted on 12/19/2006 9:23:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Torie

If only we could elect a nerdy acne scared candidate with poor speaking skills who wears glasses but has the right message.

Poor Steve Forbes.


218 posted on 12/19/2006 9:24:54 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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To: nopardons

"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal."
--Rudy Giuliani

"most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."---Rudy Giuliani

"Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it."
---Rudy Giuliani

"He would not have been my choice" (On the nomination of apparently Pro-Life John Roberts to SCOTUS) ---Rudy Giuliani

Giuliani blames weak gun laws for shooting
http://www.cnn.com/US/9702/24/empire.shoot/


The man will expand the government to make us pay for abortions domestic and overseas, by his own words.

He has a perfect record of being against guns.

He supports Campaign Finance Reform.

Rudy Giuliani might expand the power of the Federal Government further than any President since FDR. But hey, maybe he'll cut taxes and folks like you can claim he's reduced the size of government, even though he hasn't. Smaller government is more than a tax break - and Rudy Giuliani is NOT for smaller government and never has been. The man confiscated cars based on suspicion - not conviction, suspicion - in New York city.

I am not for Rudy because I am against big government. Given a chance, the man would MASSIVELY increase the government to fund his social preferences, just like in New York.


219 posted on 12/19/2006 9:29:49 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: nopardons

Kieslowski did the 3 colors trilogy (Blue, White and Red) and Decalouge was a 10 part show for Polish TV. Each story is a seperate story (with them all in a common location and some carry over) with each a theme of a commandment.

Its a brilliant series, check your library, most have it for rent, or netflix. I bought an obviously pirated version over Ebay.


220 posted on 12/19/2006 9:31:40 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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