Posted on 12/19/2006 10:28:56 AM PST by Moose4
COLUMBUS, Ohio - It was the sort of commonplace misbehavior that raises blood pressure across the nation's roads: kids, out after midnight, egging cars along a busy thoroughfare.
This time, though, the mischief turned deadly. The driver of a targeted gray Jeep barreled after the boys and someone inside pulled a gun, firing multiple shots that killed 14-year-old Danny Crawford.
Police are still seeking the gunman more than two weeks after Crawford's death. They have interviewed the Jeep's owner but aren't saying if that person is a suspect.
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This was all hashed, and re-hashed, on the original thread when the news story broke. My opinion still hasn't changed.
Yes, but both the driver and shooter should be sharing a cell with the surviving teenagers who participated in the egg-throwing.
"Cars give people a sense of anonymous power that helps explain such confrontations,"
He should have mentioned the key board commandos that give what they think is the tough guy reaction to stories like this.
Flogging would be a nice start. Charging them with attempted manslaughter would be pretty sweet, too.
Heh... My dad used to tell me when I was much younger that if I ever got in trouble with the police, that I better pray I stay in jail, as anything he would do to me would be far worse than anything any legal authority could impose.
COOL!! I'll have to try that!
Ha ha ha. How true. Can't justify killing the boy over throwing eggs, but they won't let people cane them. Aw, skip it.
"I have NO pity for the 'victim' here."
And we differ on this to a point where there is no middle ground.
Most who own guns would not shoot at authorities. It is the lunatic fringe that would shoot to keep their weapons. Their exctinction would shortly follow their attempt to hold onto their weapons in the face of a superior force.
...of course we know the shooter was an upstanding citizen and also had a permit to carry. (sarcasm)
Hey, what gives, why was your post removed?
I know you're not a troll, no personal attacks?
What the heck is up with that?
I remember hearing that rumor when I was a kid. People used to talk all the time about doing it on Halloween night, because for it to be really effective, it had to be "frosted on" to the paint. When the cars owner tries to peel it off the next morning, the paint comes right off with the bologna.
I'm not sure as to the validity of this, though.
"an eye for an eye", said the unborn omelette's parents
I have zero sympathy for the egg-throwers, but a reckless response from a driver or occupant of a targeted car is equally irresponsible. Unfortunately, law enforcement rarely deals with this sort of "prank" as a serious crime unless the action causes an accident resulting in death or catastrophic injury. Attempting to cause an accident that could reasonably be expected to result in death or catastrophic injury should be taken just as seriously.
The responsible reaction from the driver and occupants would have been stop the car, run after and catch one or more of the kids, and use the gun only as a means to get them to keep still until police arrived to arrest them. Perhaps if the driver and occupants didn't have a reasonable fear that such a response would result in their own arrest and prosecution, rather than that of the guilty teenagers, they would have chosen that option.
That's immaterial. There is no way to know if those were eggs in their hands or large rocks which can kill as you are driving towards them at road speeds.
If your mentor said the correct response to being egged is to shoot and kill the miscreant then he is an idiot. If you agree then you have put yourself in the same category.
I have had my car egged at 60mph and was not happy. My brother was walking along a road and got hit my an egg right in the middle of the chest and had a massive bruise for weeks.
I know the damage an egg moving at seped can do to a person and the car paint.
But the law rightly considers that killing the vandal is murder probably 2nd degree.
It is a matter of degree of misbehavior and the correct response is not to kill every vandal. That is for legitimate self defense and home invasion.
If a homeowner kills some kids who egg his house then he is brought up on murder charges.
If people start to agree with your viewpoint that the proper response is to kill a vandal then the current direction not to prosecute self defense cases will reverse and we will be like the UK where self defense is a chargable offense.
Damned if I know.
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12:30AM and I'm betting there may have been alcohol involved. Not really a mitigating factor in my book as far as guilt/innocence is concerned, but offered in way of a possibility. If they catch the shooter, try him for manslaughter but take the kids provocation and initial assault into account during sentencing.
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