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To: infidel_pride

9-11 and the GWOT came at an opportune time.

Ever since then the Serb agenda has been pushing to make the conflict into the Balkans something that it never was. They want to rewrite history.

Serbia was the antagonist. They had the means and motive to wage a war. They were told to stop because they were destabilizing the entire region and creating chaos. They were warned and threatened. Eventually they were bombed into submission with an air campaign. Now you can attempt to “spin” this reality anyway you want, but those are the facts.

“You forgot to compare the Serbs with the Nazis”

While you attempt to mock this, 48 people are convicted of crimes that were the same sort of things Nazi war criminals were sentenced for. Your defense is always the same as well, deny deny deny.

Example: http://www.un.org/icty/glance/milosevic.htm

You can create all the “free Slobodan” websites you want. The legal proceedings will continue and he will go down in flames, like 48 others so far. Because the evidence is there, and unlike here, where all you do is suck up bandwidth by repetitive screaming of irrelevant or bogus arguments, the “facts” speak for themselves.

What makes the Nazi regime what it was? They acted in a "deliberate" and "premeditated" fashion. The orders to commit these atrocities came from the top (leadership directed) and it was "systemic" of the regime in power at the time.

A bad Example: The anti war pundit in Iraq tried their hardest to connect Rumsfeld and even Bush to Abu Gharib. While complete nonsense, this attempt was to construct exactly the argument I'm making which in this case has been "Proven" correct. The leadership in Serbia directed much of what happened. The actions were systemic and widespread, it was premeditated and deliberate. Yes, it is very much so a rational argument to compare Nazi Germany with the actions of Serbia in the Balkans in the late 90s. It’s the same type of scenario where a state engages in activity that is in flagrant violation of international law.

The comparison to Nazi’s truly is over used in the media and common language. Everyone wants to compare those they don’t like to a Nazi. However, in case of Serbia in the late 90s, you have a state that fulfills all the tenants of what in essence made the Nazi regime what it was. The atrocities committed were not the actions of an individual taking it upon himself to do wrong. It was a deliberate state sanctioned premeditated and systematic behavior which Serbia engaged in reference the crimes committed, and this is very much like what the Nazi’s did, like it or not.

On a personal level, I have no love for the Muslim religion. I saw and lived with Arabs on numerous times and have no affinity for their culture. I agree that Islam is the root out of which most the worlds terrorism is borne. I think many who practice this religion sympathize with the Jihadist, even if they don’t personally blow something up. I don’t find very much admirable about this part of the world. It’s a hot ugly, backward place with nasty women. Fluent in several languages myself, I find even the sound of Farsi/Arabic to be repugnant. French is eloquent, Farsi is guttural and from the throat. But what happened in the Balkans late 90s was simply wrong. The ones who are practicing revisionism are the ones who today, in a world of heightened Islamic threat want to just exploit this “argument” as another bullet on their laundry list of fake reasons for why the leadership in Serbia acted the way it did. Truth is, this war in the late 90s was a classical case of where a state wanted to expand its influence and power, increase its area and seize the land/property of others. In complete disregard of human life and suffering, this state went on a quest to seize as much territory as possible just like Germany did in its expansion. The Serbs had the tanks, the fighters, surface to air missiles, officers, and artillery. The Serbs were calling the shots. Just like WWII was “Germany’s” war, the Balkan crisis was a product of “Serbia”. Just like many innocent Germans died in the crushing of this regime, in Serbia many innocent people died when an end was put on the state sponsored actions of that regime. Had NATO not bombed, Serbia no doubt would have just continued their conquest, and this had nothing to do with the protection of Serbs. Just like Germany actually claimed that Poland had attacked them, the Serbs today want to pretend that they were the victims. Today with the advent of the GWOT the new “spin” is that Serbia was fighting Islamic terrorists, gee, what hero’s. It’s nice when the terrorists all congregate together and you can burry them in a mass grave isn’t it? Your pick: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=mass+grave+bosnia&btnG=Search


131 posted on 12/20/2006 12:23:43 PM PST by Red6 (Weird thoughts -)
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To: Red6
On a personal level, I have no love for the Muslim religion.

Your posts show that to be yet another falsehood.

140 posted on 12/20/2006 6:40:25 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Red6
["On a personal level...I don’t find very much admirable about this part of the world. It’s a hot ugly, backward place with NASTY WOMEN."] (capitalization added for emphasis.)

An example using your own words to amplify just how judgmental, intolerant, and insensitive you are.
141 posted on 12/20/2006 7:50:20 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Red6
"You can create all the “free Slobodan” websites you want. The legal proceedings will continue and he will go down in flames, like 48 others so far."

What planet are you living on? Don't know how to break this to you Red -- but Milosevic is DEAD! He died last March! trial over. And you don't even know this fact, but you think that you understand Balkan politics? You are "in kindergarten" with regarding the Balkans and you are acting as though you have a "doctorate", lecturing us with rehashed Clintonite propaganda. It's ridiculous.

I am no Slobo fan. I think that Milosevic belonged in prison --a Serbian prison -- for what he did do, not what he didn't do. But the ICTY is a farce; it is "victor's justice" -- a political hoax. And because the ICTY had nothing on Milosevic and prosecuted him for what he didn't do, they made the SOB a martyr -- and that was the worst of all possible scenarios.

And there was no "opportune time for 9/11". The Balkans is and always has been "a political barometer" of Europe. It is where 3 of the world's major religions meet, and politically where East meets West. You can always bet that if there is "trouble in the Balkans", there is trouble in Europe (and the world), period. And that "trouble" is rarely ever of the making of those who live there -- it has always been a sign that either Germany or the Moslem world are in expansion mode. This time, it was both.

142 posted on 12/20/2006 7:59:37 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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