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To: hosepipe

"there are some other variations in this scenario like "God started it" or "Aliens started it" but the result is the same there is NO HOLY SPIRIT and man ultimately does not have a spirit.. ToE is a practical assault against the HOLY SPIRIT as an entity... and by inference Jesus the Christ(Messiah) and "the Father".."

The only thing ToE states is life evolves over time. PERIOD. The only reason you see it as an assualt on man having a spirit is because you are married to the Hebrew creation story.

If there is a higher being, why does it have to be the one from the Hebrew Bronze Age Creation myth? What gives that story precedence over the Maya, the Chinese, the African, and Native American myths? Why can't one believe in a higher being without discarding science?

And why should one abandon all logic, throw out the entire fields of biology, geology and astronomy in order to conform to a 6,000 year old collection of books written by various men in the Bronze Age, who didn't even know that the Earth was a sphere, and later translated numerous times?


465 posted on 12/19/2006 8:17:06 PM PST by LiberalGunNut
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To: LiberalGunNut
And why should one abandon all logic, throw out the entire fields of biology, geology and astronomy in order to conform to a 6,000 year old collection of books written by various men in the Bronze Age, who didn't even know that the Earth was a sphere, and later translated numerous times?

Begging the question...but Sherlock Holmes didn't know the moon orbited the Earth. (Yes, I know he's fictional, but it's still a great rhetorical point to make).

The crux of the issue you raised can be distilled to:

1) Are the scriptures divinely inspired?
2) Was the kernel of what was inspired transmitted closely enough that the inspiration is unsullied?
3) If the parts of it which talk of a 6,000 year old Earth are part of the divinely inspired part, were those parts meant to be taken literally, or to illustrate vital moral truths in a way that even the Bronze Age Wal-Mart crowd would get?

Cheers!

478 posted on 12/19/2006 8:46:57 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: LiberalGunNut
[ And why should one abandon all logic, throw out the entire fields of biology, geology and astronomy in order to conform to a 6,000 year old collection of books written by various men in the Bronze Age, who didn't even know that the Earth was a sphere, and later translated numerous times? ]

A sphere?..
Quantum mechanics don't even know what matter is yet..
Or what dark matter/energy is.. What appears to be a sphere might be something else.. 6000 years or 15 billion years.. QM shows that time itself might be a mental construct of humans.. Timeing however is quite real and trumps time..

6000 years could be an illusion..

487 posted on 12/19/2006 9:44:18 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: LiberalGunNut
What gives that story precedence over the Maya, the Chinese, the African, and Native American myths?

Jesus of Nazareth

509 posted on 12/20/2006 7:12:37 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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