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This would make an excellent commercial for Daimler/Chrysler.
1 posted on 12/17/2006 7:01:55 PM PST by Westlander
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To: Westlander
off-roaders destroyed the canyon by cutting trees, dumping boulders in the water and using winches to drag their Jeeps up the waterfalls.

If in fact they did this, they deserve to lose access to the area.

2 posted on 12/17/2006 7:04:55 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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Obvious solution: Charge an exorbitant amount for permits to do this and use those funds to repair any damage done by these activities. Works great for funding preservation for endangered species (through allowing extremely limited hunting and charging a butt load for permits to hunt them).


3 posted on 12/17/2006 7:05:46 PM PST by DrGunsforHands
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To: Westlander

it sounds like flooding does more damgae than the jeeps


4 posted on 12/17/2006 7:10:09 PM PST by spanalot
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I used to go to this area a long time ago. It is an historic area as well as being visually stimulating. I used 4x4's to get thru here to hunt deer at the higher elevations.


5 posted on 12/17/2006 7:11:14 PM PST by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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Attention CA Quad enthusiasts:

If you like 4 wheelin', tobacco products, guns, limited government, and Tom Mclintock, then I recommend moving to Missouri and eating my dust.

If you only like some of the above (like Arnold instead of McClintock or don't like smokers), I recommend moving to Johnson County, Kansas, across from KC, MO, and commuting to Missouri to eat my dust.

6 posted on 12/17/2006 7:12:13 PM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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Example of Green Think:

"..Environmental groups allege that, before they won protection for the area in 2001, off-roaders destroyed the canyon by cutting trees, dumping boulders in the water and using winches to drag their Jeeps up the waterfalls. They are seeking to intervene in the off-roaders' lawsuit.

Since 2001, the canyon has regenerated, with new vegetation attracting wildlife.

"It's almost unbelievable what's up there. It's precious, it's pristine," said Tom Budlong, an activist who regularly hikes the canyon about 200 miles northeast of his Los Angeles home. "I shudder to think of the extreme four-wheelers getting back into the canyon and making a road where there is now no road.".."

So it was destroyed and now it is pristine. The Greens are Shrill, liars, and a tremendous drag on the economy.

7 posted on 12/17/2006 7:14:59 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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Too bad the reporter didn't ask for proof of degradation by the ORVs...
11 posted on 12/17/2006 7:53:42 PM PST by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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Before I got married in 1978, I was the proud owner of a BSA 500 single. I had to pay a big "offroad" fee to ride it. The CA DMV claimed this fee would be used to acquire land where I could ride my offroad bike. I have yet to see any evidence that this was anything but a tax. Where are the promised offroad parks?

The damn greenies are like the anti-gun types. They are all wound up about protecting huge expanses of barren desert from use by offroad recreational users. The land is completely fallow. It's use hurts nobody. Stupid busybodies and control freaks.

16 posted on 12/17/2006 8:41:48 PM PST by Myrddin
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Surprise Canyon Road is an Inyo County public road.

The county has passed a resolution that claims all roads within Inyo County as RS2477 roads...

http://www.fopv.org/action.html


18 posted on 12/17/2006 9:10:35 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Judging how the scumbags treat the Pismo Dunes, they don't deserve a place to ride until they learn respect. They destroy everything and crap on everything they use. And I hate the illegal fireworks, the fat children, the sleazy girlfriends, the stupid barbwire tattoos on obese arms flapping out of cut off tanks, obnoxious matching jumpsuits on men weighing over 300 pounds under 5'5", the beer cans on the beach, the loud music, the loud cars, the smell, and loud obnoxious behaviors from this sub culture of idiocy.

I wish I was just jealous, but I'm not. From Porterville, I know this type of trash.
25 posted on 12/17/2006 9:34:32 PM PST by Porterville (We just need one strong leader)
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27 posted on 12/17/2006 9:55:18 PM PST by Amerigomag
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Amazing that the activist gets his britches in a bunch over a desert cyn., and yet lives in a city covered with hundreds of square miles of asphalt and concrete, with millions of vehicles circulating on it. Maybe they should just pave the canyon, so he can drive his BMW SUV up it.


30 posted on 12/18/2006 12:50:02 AM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the horns of the righteous shall be exalted.)
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So then... If the BLM had properly maintained the road in the first place, none of the alleged damage would have occurred. And now it's the negligent BLM who wants to continue to keep the area off-limits. I suppose that I could try something like this with the IRS; blame them for my math errors and claim that I thus do not owe any taxes. Of course, I'd end up in jail, but if it works for the BLM...


41 posted on 12/18/2006 12:04:21 PM PST by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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