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Off-Roaders Fight Ecos for Calif. Canyon
The Associated Press ^
| December 17, 2006
| GILLIAN FLACCUS
Posted on 12/17/2006 7:01:52 PM PST by Westlander
Whoever named Surprise Canyon got it right. Mere miles from bone-dry Death Valley, the canyon cradles two unexpected jewels: a gushing mountain stream and what's left of a once-bustling silver mining town.
Environmental groups allege that, before they won protection for the area in 2001, off-roaders destroyed the canyon by cutting trees, dumping boulders in the water and using winches to drag their Jeeps up the waterfalls.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2477; biological; california; cbd; deathvalley; diversity; ecology; econuts; environment; government; jeep; offroad; propertyrights; rs2477; rs2477roads; surprise; surprisecanyon
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To: SierraWasp
Daniel Patterson of the Center for Biological Diversity points out that ...
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posted on
12/17/2006 9:20:23 PM PST
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: Myrddin
To: Carry_Okie
Inyo County's Fifth District Supervisor Richard Cervantes claims that neither of these federal agencies has any jurisdiction over the Surprise Canyon Road.
"When that road was built in 1874 it automatically became an RS 2477 road," Cervantes said recently.
"That means that it belongs to the citizens of the United States and is held in trust by Inyo County.
No federal agency has any right to touch that road."
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posted on
12/17/2006 9:23:42 PM PST
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: colorcountry
For Fellows, the designation of large amounts of public lands as wilderness, meaning no vehicular access, is a touchy subject.
With nearly 130,000 acres of wilderness in the Panamint Valley area alone and nearly 95 percent of the nearly three million acres in Death Valley National Park, he said, "I dare say there is enough wilderness!"
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posted on
12/17/2006 9:28:04 PM PST
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: Westlander
Judging how the scumbags treat the Pismo Dunes, they don't deserve a place to ride until they learn respect. They destroy everything and crap on everything they use. And I hate the illegal fireworks, the fat children, the sleazy girlfriends, the stupid barbwire tattoos on obese arms flapping out of cut off tanks, obnoxious matching jumpsuits on men weighing over 300 pounds under 5'5", the beer cans on the beach, the loud music, the loud cars, the smell, and loud obnoxious behaviors from this sub culture of idiocy.
I wish I was just jealous, but I'm not. From Porterville, I know this type of trash.
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posted on
12/17/2006 9:34:32 PM PST
by
Porterville
(We just need one strong leader)
To: Porterville
Throw in some crack ho's, gunplay in front of schools, and some corpses. Welcome to Deetroit.
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posted on
12/17/2006 9:44:25 PM PST
by
Westlander
(Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
To: Westlander
To: george76
Battles over RS-2477 roads are a huge matter all across the West, usually because they can be used as access to develop mining claims. The guy who, in my opinion, has the best grip on that body of law is Don Fife.
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posted on
12/17/2006 10:53:07 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(There are people in power who are truly evil.)
To: GoforBroke
I lived in San Diego when I was paying those fees. I would have to have a means of towing my offroad vehicle almost 400 miles north to use the Hungry Valley area. The canyons around my home (Rice/Bats/Otay Ranch) were wide open when I was in high school. I could literally push my bike 2 blocks to the edge of the canyon. Today, I would have to transport the bike at least 15 miles east to the nearest undeveloped land.
Thankfully, I don't live in California anymore. The mountains around south Pocatello are open for offroad activity. It occurs at such a low level that nobody really cares. At age 50, I won't be taking a dirt bike out anymore either. I prefer to put my $$ into something safer. Something with a large caliber.
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posted on
12/17/2006 11:26:49 PM PST
by
Myrddin
To: Westlander
Amazing that the activist gets his britches in a bunch over a desert cyn., and yet lives in a city covered with hundreds of square miles of asphalt and concrete, with millions of vehicles circulating on it. Maybe they should just pave the canyon, so he can drive his BMW SUV up it.
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posted on
12/18/2006 12:50:02 AM PST
by
HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
(All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the horns of the righteous shall be exalted.)
To: george76
Did you say "Center for Bioilogical Duplicity?"
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posted on
12/18/2006 8:12:38 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(Proud "100 percenter," wanting CA & US to stick with winning "core" conservatism 100% of the time!!!)
To: Iconoclast2; george76
Ain't it the TRUTH!!! (what you said!) Some people are so danged oblivious to the obvious that it's laughable! Except it ain't funny!!!
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posted on
12/18/2006 8:17:55 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(Proud "100 percenter," wanting CA & US to stick with winning "core" conservatism 100% of the time!!!)
To: SierraWasp
Yes.
Whatever they are for...I am against.
"Center for Bioilogical Duplicity?"
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posted on
12/18/2006 8:18:00 AM PST
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: Spirochete
ROTFLOL! You got that right! (From an expat CA native ;))
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posted on
12/18/2006 8:22:40 AM PST
by
antidisestablishment
(Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
To: Ben Mugged
"If in fact they did this, they deserve to lose access to the area."
Do you think someone MIGHT be exaggerating the damage just a wee bit?
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posted on
12/18/2006 8:32:31 AM PST
by
dljordan
To: dljordan
What don't you understand about the word "if"?
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posted on
12/18/2006 9:18:15 AM PST
by
Ben Mugged
(Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
To: Ben Mugged
What is this "IF" you speak of? :)
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posted on
12/18/2006 11:03:51 AM PST
by
dljordan
To: dljordan
See post number 2.
If in fact they did this, they deserve to lose access to the area.
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posted on
12/18/2006 11:13:41 AM PST
by
Ben Mugged
(Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
To: Ben Mugged
How do you destroy a canyon? These environmental Nazis make it seem that there are no other
gushing mountain streams or a once-bustling silver mining towns in California.
Also are you aware that clearing the DEAD tree stumps and rocks was done on PRIVATE property? Something like 90% of California is owned by either the State or the US Government. Isnt that enough so called protected areas. What the environmental Nazis or the fun police want is to have NO ONE on ANY land doing ANYTHING.
They want it all to be the Kings land so that ONLY they can enjoy it.
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posted on
12/18/2006 11:24:46 AM PST
by
Exton1
To: Porterville
Porterville, if you hate it so much, why do you go to this stuff?
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posted on
12/18/2006 11:30:51 AM PST
by
Exton1
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