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Spy killed by $US10m worth of polonium
The Australian ^ | 18 Decenber 2996 | Daniel McGrory and Tony Halpin

Posted on 12/17/2006 6:10:09 PM PST by shrinkermd

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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Or was he thought to be a double agent? And whoever the recipient was of the polonium needed him to be taken out of the way. Still not a good scenario.

How much Polonium is in $10 million?

My bad dreams are back...


41 posted on 12/18/2006 2:46:08 AM PST by EBH
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To: REDWOOD99

Dumb, dumb, mind jumping speculations...

When did the ban on liquids take place? Doesn't Polonium 210 vaporize in air? Wouldn't this be transported in liquid?


42 posted on 12/18/2006 3:02:26 AM PST by EBH
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To: REDWOOD99; GVNR
From the link in post #19:

Let’s be clear about what we are talking about here. One gram of PO-210 can kill 100 million people, and one still needs to wonder why three trips are required to move one gram? Are we talking three grams - one per each trip into London? That would mean enough to kill 300 million people!
People who wonder why I get tired and frustrated with the ever weakening assassination theory need to digest what it means to dismiss this alternative scenario. We could be seeing a sea of dead Litvinenko’s soon, depending on how much PO-210 was traveling through London this October. And I doubt those three installments would only net 3 grams.

If the above is true, what if an Al Quida unknown enemy of the United States is/was the potential customer?

43 posted on 12/18/2006 3:11:08 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (HDTV ping list, please FReepmail me if you would like your name added.)
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To: B.O. Plenty
Whatever the reason...it is really, really, really fun to watch....heh heh heh

Maybe Tyler Durden poisoned him.


44 posted on 12/18/2006 5:23:51 AM PST by montag813
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To: shrinkermd
"but are unsure whether the massive amount was used to send a message - it made it easier for British scientists to detect - or is evidence of a clumsy operation."

If it was a Russian op...then the latter is most likely.

45 posted on 12/18/2006 7:05:33 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: spetznaz

'good evidence' that Putin did it I am immediately curious and would love to see this evidence
.............
What part of 'Russia killed 100 million in the last century'
do you not understand.


46 posted on 12/18/2006 6:44:52 PM PST by spanalot
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To: montag813
Or, the Polonium was HIS, and he really, really, really screwed up.

Bingo. I'll repeat this one more time. He should have listened to his momma.

She said,

...boychick, never put anything hot uppa yo' ass!"

47 posted on 12/18/2006 6:51:31 PM PST by harrowup (So perfect, I am naturally humble.)
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To: shrinkermd
Bush did it.

Whaat? Someone had to say it.

48 posted on 12/18/2006 6:56:36 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: spanalot
What part of 'Russia killed 100 million in the last century' do you not understand.

The part where killing 100 million in the last century is tantamount to killing the ex-spy. Is that the so-called 'good evidence' that is being talked about?

As I said in a prior post, both sides are utterly nuts. The 'Putin did it' and the 'Putin didn't do it' camps are both simply blowing smoke from a certain place. Neither side has any evidence (and the fact that you are basing your 'Putin did it' evidence on Russian killing 100 million people in the 20th Century just shows to what extent the 'evidence' gathering has gone to).

What you gave me is not evidence ....it is actually proof of the contrary. The lack of it.

49 posted on 12/18/2006 7:37:13 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: GSlob
The question to ask would be - who would be interested in discrediting litvinenko by pumping up this "conversion", and in whose eyes?

On looking it up, there's confusion as to who was the source of this information: Was it his next-door neighbort? "Litvinenko's conversion to Islam was announced by his next-door neighbor, moderate Muslim and Chechen dissident Akhmed Zakayev..." Click here. Or was it his father? Click here and here.

There are also discrepancies as to whether he received the Muslim last rites or not - found within the above links.

If he had converted to Islam, that would strengthen my conspiracy theory that he himself was the source of the polonium - that he was a terrorist who was planting polonium in various places. Anyone who has ties to Chechen Muslims is automatically suspect, in my mind.

50 posted on 12/18/2006 7:39:29 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Send in the bombers!)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Chechens have been fighting for independence from russia [on and off] since the 1820s, way before anyone have heard of wahhabism. [The international angle is a very recent phenomenon there]. That makes them a bona fide liberation movement. Working with them could be logical for anti-putinoids, thus I do not see much suspicious stuff in it. The whole affair stinks of kegebuns.


51 posted on 12/18/2006 11:09:51 PM PST by GSlob
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To: spanalot

What part of 'Russia killed 100 million in the last century' do you not understand.==

Usual russophobia again:).


52 posted on 12/19/2006 3:29:03 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: spetznaz

The 'Putin did it' and the 'Putin didn't do it' camps are both simply blowing smoke from a certain place. ==

Accually the crowd "Putin did it" has to present evidence. Opposite crowd shouldn't do that because of "innocent until proven guilty" priciple. I for one just wait that those who blame Putin show thier evidences. For me it is enough that Putin has no motive to kill and no access to Litvinenko.


53 posted on 12/19/2006 3:32:01 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: RusIvan
("THINK!" the motto of IBM)

I thought it was THIMK

And your judgment is spot-on.

54 posted on 12/19/2006 9:55:49 AM PST by harrowup (So perfect, I am naturally humble.)
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To: Hank Kerchief
about $US69, it would take at least 15,000 orders, costing more than $US10 million, to kill someone.

$69 times 15,000 is $1,035,000.

55 posted on 12/19/2006 10:36:10 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: RusIvan

""What part of 'Russia killed 100 million in the last century' do you not understand.== ""

"Usual russophobia again:)."

Yes - given their dedication to unrivaled barbarity, fear of Russians is well justified.

http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/


56 posted on 12/19/2006 3:45:36 PM PST by spanalot
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To: shrinkermd

The ballon broke.


57 posted on 12/19/2006 3:46:59 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: GSlob; Tailgunner Joe; lizol; RusIvan

HEre it is.

http://halldor2.blogspot.com/2006/12/litvinenko-gordievsky-interview-ii.html


58 posted on 12/19/2006 4:35:50 PM PST by spanalot
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To: Dubya-M-Dees

......Who kills someone... a single person... with a $10m weapon?......

A person with access. Remember the Soviet mentality. You set people to producing and then pay them year after year after year. The industrial plan called for the production of polonium with no regard for how much or even if any was actually required. In such a society, there is no economic penalty for capital absorbing inventory over production.

God only knows how much of the generally unneeded stuff was produced and stock piled. Marc Rich, Bill Clinton and Al Gore got rich cornering and selling the Soviet aluminum stock pile. The market was trashed when the glut hit.


59 posted on 12/19/2006 4:42:06 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: spanalot

Yes - given their dedication to unrivaled barbarity, fear of Russians is well justified.

http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/ ==

Litvians conviniently forgot thier former president Brazauskas and who he was during soviet times. They blame only Russians but accquit themselves. It is just usual russophobia nothing more.


60 posted on 12/20/2006 2:50:53 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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