Posted on 12/16/2006 1:05:49 PM PST by shrinkermd
NEW YORK - Thousands of protesters, counting in unison from one to 50 to mark the number of shots fired by police in the death of an unarmed Queens man last month, clogged Fifth Avenue on Saturday in a Shopping for Justice protest three weeks after the slaying and one week before the Christmas weekend.
Trent Benefield, 23, one of the survivors of the Nov. 25 shooting that killed Sean Bell, led the marchers from his wheelchair as they headed south through midtown Manhattan. He was encircled by bodyguards, and followed by a group of clergy and elected officials on one of the busiest shopping days of the year just nine days before Christmas.
"... This is not just a New York City problem, said U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel, who was near the front of the march. This march gives people a chance to speak out.
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"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Sharpton made the unsubstantiated allegation that Pagones was one of a group of white men who abducted and raped Brawley.
Al Sharpton is capable of making outrageous and reckless charges, Pagones said. I know, because I was on the receiving end in the Tawana Brawley case, which we know is a hoax. Al Sharpton is an opportunist. My primary purpose is to remind people to be careful when they listen to Al Sharpton.
He he he. I'm sure they had all the proper permits for their "protest" as their are no reports of arrests.
And that is not regarding the fact that everyone in that car, driver and passengers alike (including the one who fled the scene), had felony records. Justice? Justice was done. Get over it.
Congressman Billybob
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After glancing at the headline I thought it said "Shoplifting for Justice." I may closer to the truth with that thought.
Probably NOT a good place to wear my "FRY MUMIA" Tee shirt, huh?
After glancing at the headline I thought it said "Shoplifting for Justice." I may closer to the truth with that thought.
Probably NOT a good place to wear my "FRY MUMIA" Tee shirt, huh?
When they got to #16 did they go"click, clunk..slap,click" to mimic the reload?
This is nothing more than inflammatory BS.
This "survivor" has now been so infused with arrogance and belligerence by Al Sharpless, that he actually thinks he matters enough for someone to want to harm him further.
Sharpless is a lying POS and does nothing more than rouse the rabble.
I think your wrong here...
Assume for now that the person behind the wheel deliberately tried to run over a cop, and he knew the cop was a cop and not a thug.
That would make this person (the driver) a legitimate target.
However, there were three other (citizens) in the car with this crazy man that displayed no threat to the cops. It's clear that they could not have conspired with the driver to run over the cop. There just wouldn't have been the time.
These other three deserve the protection of the cops, not execution. They could be viewed as hostages, since they were stuck in the car with this crazy man.
Suppose these folks got on a crowded buss instead of getting into their car. Would you support shooting 50 rounds into the bus. I think not.
The people in this case didn't just "rob a bank". They were at a bachelor party. You would have no reason to expect all the playgoers to be out to get you.
There's no way that all four had the intent to do harm to the cops, which leaves us with one or more Innocent citizens, and a justified murder (or attempted murder) charge against the cops.
Riddeling the car with 50 rounds was obviously an attempt to kill all the occupants of the car, not just the driver.
The fact that "all" had criminal records is irreverent. "Most" black males have criminal records in major cities, however the cops did not know of these records at the time of the shooting.
The police in this case need to be charged.
This man suffered mightily due to Sharpton and one of his fellow officers committed suicide.
That the media deifies Sharpton is sickening.
Consider the fact the undercover agent was in the strip club enjoying the show and drinking too. Now I don't know how large this club is, but if it is smaller club, then there is a chance that the victims could have seen him in there enjoying himself with all the rest.
Now he's outside the club flashing a badge and gun demanding that they comply with his commands. Is he real, or is he memorex? It is not a crime to go into a strip club and drink. The victims had committed no crime. At that juncture their crime became failure to comply. But how were they supposed to know who this character really was that was giving them commands? He was in the strip club drinking and partying too. Is he a mugger with a real gun and fake badge or a real cop? Not much time to decide.
Oops, he was real and he was a shooter. Course, if he was a mugger with fake badge, either way they were in trouble.
I think I would have done what Sean Bell did. Do everything I could to escape the scene knowing I had committed no crime and surely this wasn't a real cop.
Part of crowd psychology status is that a minority needs to constantly reinforce its necessity and rationale. When there is no central belief or purpose, then what results is a series of efforts to enforce some sort of cohesiveness.
For example, for the secular Jew (non observant) antisemitism serves this purpose. Any slight, no matter how trivial, is seen as proof positive that they are victims and need to defend themselves as a group. The pay off is they are once again identified as "Jews" with a big "J" rather than a small "j." Of course the big challenge to Judiasm is not the mediocre American antisemitiesm but the intermarriage of Jewish males to Gentile women.
For the African-Americans it is much the same only this time skin color is equated with being the target of police brutality. The constant effort at finding examples is exhaustive but the pay off is increased group cohesion and the ability to discharge group hostility and prejudice against Whites whomever they may be. The outcome this entire effort is only the justification of claims against the Democratic party with little or no benefit for the Black middle or underclass. Just a cheap emotion soon dissipated because of sameness and boredom.
Did you mean 'That the media defends Sharpton is sickening?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Did you mean 'That the media defends Sharpton is sickening?
de·i·fy (d-f, d-) tr.v. dei·fied, dei·fy·ing, dei·fies
1. To make a god of; raise to the condition of a god.
2. To worship or revere as a god: deify a leader.
3. To idealize; exalt: deifying success.
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Oh sheesh. He has no problem as long as it's someone else. When his day arrives, Wellstone's send off will pale in comparison.
FOCUS!
"...but in my post #9 to Congressman Billybob, I conceded that the driver may have done something criminal and threatening to the cops."
For all we know this undercover agent jumped on the hood of the car and began firing because they refused to comply with his commands. Folks all over the nation are getting tasered for the same thing. Then as Bell was trying to throw him off the car he collided with the unmarked van that was full of other undercover agents that jumped out and began firing away themselves.
The one thing we do know, they had no guns. So we are left with the undercover agents claim that he tried to run him over...using the car as a deadly weapon.
I'll say this, that is a pretty agile agent that can be nearly run over by a car and then still be able to jump on the hood and began firing away. Obviously he wasn't hurt or impaired in anyway by the car. That tells me Bell was determined to escape the scene and the undercover agent was hell bent on stopping him even if it meant killing him and everyone in the car.
Bell's only crime thru-out this whole ordeal was failure to comply with the commands of someone he wasn't sure was a cop.
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