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Zimbabwe Has No Plans To Turn Over Convicted Ethiopian Dictator (Mugabe protects Mengistu)
allheadlinenews.com ^ | December 13, 2006

Posted on 12/14/2006 3:15:09 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Harare, Zimbabwe (AHN) - Zimbabwe will not turn over former Former Former Ethiopian dictator Mengistu Haile Miriam, despite his conviction of genocide.

William Nhara, a spokesperson for President Robert Mugabe's government, says, "As a comrade of our struggle, Comrade Mengistu and his government played a key and commendable role during our struggle for independence and no one can dispute that."

"The judgment is an Ethiopian judgment and will not affect his status in Zimbabwe. As far as we know there is no extradition treaty between Harare and Addis Ababa."

Mengistu, who has been living in exile in Zimbabwe since he fell from power in 1991, was convicted of charges ranging from genocide, to imprisonment, homicide, and illegal confiscation of property.

Ethiopia's Federal High Court convicted Mengistu and 71 other defendants for their parts in the "Red Terror." According to the U.S. government, "The enormity of government-sponsored operations against suspected political opponents during the 'Red Terror' has defied accurate analysis and has made attempts at quantification of casualties irrelevant."

"Sources estimated that, during 1977-78, about 30,000 people had perished as a result of the Red Terror and harsh conditions in prisons, kebele jails, and concentration camps."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; baseketball; baselessaccusations; christian; christianity; concentrationcamps; durkadurka; islam; jihad; nukemecca; racism; religionofpeace; reparations; rop; slaveryreparations; wordgames
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To: lqclamar
Except that you advocate and defend comforters and supporters of jihadi terrorism nonetheless.

Just give an example. Your opinion is about as valid as your "scholarly" reputation at this point.

421 posted on 02/02/2007 9:54:33 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
You're being intentionally dishonest again [...] I have never denied that Chad supported De Gaulle, and in fact openly pointed that out to you in post #200.

And in #351, you claim that:

"The muslim northern French Equatorial colonies were Vichy controlled for the first half of the war and contributed far less to the allied side than non-Vichy colonies.

Again, Chad was the northernmost colony of French Equatorial Africa and the only one with a majority Muslim population. Which of your statements is true? #200? Or #351? They contradict each other.

422 posted on 02/02/2007 9:58:33 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
The named colonies either gave their allegiance to De Gaulle, or were taken by him early on as he shifted the line of battle. Nothing subjective about that

They also contributed far fewer troops. (see above.) Nothing subjective about that.

Conclusion: Even by wratcheting up my muslim recruitment concentration to 5 times its portion of the population's religious distribution, I still end up with an army that's only 11% muslim.

Yes, under the conditions that you set, that would be the case.

However, you have failed to prove how the majority of the troops would not be Muslims if the majority of recruits were Muslims.

423 posted on 02/02/2007 10:03:27 PM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
So you're entering in a number of 12-13,000 Muslims then?

That would be the number of West African Muslims in the Italian campaign.

Do you intend to add any others to this total to represent all muslims on the allied side? If so, now's the time to put it out on the table.

See above.

424 posted on 02/02/2007 10:04:35 PM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog
Carefull, lqclamar, your bigotry is showing.

Tis no bigotry - only a statement of fact. Or do you contest that most West African countries are third world crapholes?

425 posted on 02/02/2007 10:29:06 PM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
Or do you contest that most West African countries are third world crapholes?

Unless you can provide some evidence that most West African countries are literally latrines, the term "craphole" is a subjective one. If someone said that the United States was a "craphole" the thoughtful conservative would rightly suspect an anti-American bias.

For that same reason, I suspect that you have a negative bias towards West African countries and probably the West African people that live in them. Like I said, your bigotry is showing.

426 posted on 02/03/2007 12:59:58 AM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
Strawman argument. Lew Alcindor's parents were from Harlem,

Lew Alcindor's parents were Catholic. Which makes him a first generation Muslim.

427 posted on 02/03/2007 2:27:43 AM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog
Unless you can provide some evidence that most West African countries are literally latrines, the term "craphole" is a subjective one.

Looks like it's being used as a latrine to me...

If someone said that the United States was a "craphole" the thoughtful conservative would rightly suspect an anti-American bias.

...except that raw sewage and mounds of garbage are not a common sight on most American streets on any given day of the year. They are in just about any west African city.

428 posted on 02/03/2007 9:49:37 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
Looks like it's being used as a latrine to me...

You either have difficulty with the meaning of the word "literally" or you have difficulty distinguishing between fact and opinion.

Your contributions will be welcome when you recognize that good conservatives deal in facts, not emotions. Good day.

429 posted on 02/03/2007 9:57:59 AM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog
Lew Alcindor's parents were Catholic. Which makes him a first generation Muslim.

Only if he immigrated here, which is the context in which 1st generation is being applied.

That said, I've generally become bored with this discussion. As your responses to virtually everything are circuitous, rehashing them would only cover territory I've already addressed and with little purpose at that seeing as you do not engage honestly or constructively in conversations. So it's on to other threads.

Oh, and enjoy whatever passes for life in your favorite third world craphole!

430 posted on 02/03/2007 10:03:30 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
Only if he immigrated here, which is the context in which 1st generation is being applied.

If he immigrated here, he would be a 1st generation American. If he converted to Islam, he would be a 1st generation Muslim.

As your responses to virtually everything are circuitous, rehashing them would only cover territory I've already addressed and with little purpose at that seeing as you do not engage honestly or constructively in conversations. So it's on to other threads.

Sounds like "you can't handle the truth".

431 posted on 02/03/2007 10:18:40 AM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog
You either have difficulty with the meaning of the word "literally"

No. Streets in African cities are literally used as latrines.

So are ponds

and rivers

and beaches

and stairwells

and allies

and roadways

and houses

and just about everything else. In fact, several of those third world dictatorial dumpsters you're so fond of are literally swimming in crap!

432 posted on 02/03/2007 10:18:59 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: zimdog
If he immigrated here, he would be a 1st generation American. If he converted to Islam, he would be a 1st generation Muslim.

A 1st generation Muslim American would be an immigrant by definition. Thank you for proving my earlier point about your tendency to obfuscate rather than discuss though.

433 posted on 02/03/2007 10:20:49 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
No. Streets in African cities are literally used as latrines.

So you drive down a latrine? Interesting.

434 posted on 02/03/2007 10:21:04 AM PST by zimdog
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To: lqclamar
A 1st generation Muslim American would be an immigrant by definition. Thank you for proving my earlier point about your tendency to obfuscate rather than discuss though.

No. A first generation American is an immigrant by definition. A first generation Muslim American is ambiguous. The phrase does not indicate whether "first generation" refers to "Muslim", "American", or both.

435 posted on 02/03/2007 10:22:52 AM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog
So you drive down a latrine? Interesting.

Going by the looks of their roadways, apparently many africans do.

But that's your neck of the woods, so I'm not really telling you anything you don't already know.

436 posted on 02/03/2007 10:22:59 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: zimdog

As I said, thank you for proving my earlier point about your tendency to obfuscate rather than discuss.


437 posted on 02/03/2007 10:24:08 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
As I said, thank you for proving my earlier point about your tendency to obfuscate rather than discuss.

Because I insist on precise terms? Perhaps you don't understand what "obfuscate" means. Good day.

438 posted on 02/03/2007 10:25:00 AM PST by zimdog
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To: zimdog
Because I insist on precise terms?

No. Because you play word games that alter terms to support your straw man constructs of your opponents' words, in this case EPWR's espousal of internment for muslim immigrants.

And that is why I can't see much more substantive coming out of this discussion. So good day to you as well, and have a happy life in whatever third world craphole it is you come from...


439 posted on 02/03/2007 10:28:26 AM PST by lqclamar
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To: lqclamar
No. Because you play word games that alter terms to support your straw man constructs of your opponents' words, in this case EPWR's espousal of internment for muslim immigrants.

Actually, you were the one who introduced the "immigrant" factor. Before that EPWR was happily ranting about his concentration camps for all Muslims.

regarding your pictures, yes there are too many filthy places in Africa. However, they are not literally "crapholes" and so your characterization of entire countries as latrines reveals your anti-African biases, as well as your willingness to play fast and loose with words and numbers.

440 posted on 02/03/2007 10:31:46 AM PST by zimdog
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