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To: Just another Joe

Agreed. Especially terminally ill patients.

I never liked his methods or his need for press, but Kevorkian fought for what should be a basic human right. The right to die without needless suffering.


7 posted on 12/13/2006 12:33:01 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe (Say "NO" to the Trans-Texas Corridor)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Most of Kevorkian's victims were not terminally ill.

The problem is once you start down that road, what constitutes being "terminally ill" will be defined down.


10 posted on 12/13/2006 12:37:02 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I'll never fight to deny a terminally-ill adult the right to die with dignity.


11 posted on 12/13/2006 12:38:15 PM PST by richmwill
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I'm with you. My father died screaming because the doctors told me they couldn't give him any more morphine without killing him. They moved him into a private room so he wouldn't disturb the other patients and staff.


14 posted on 12/13/2006 12:42:39 PM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I never liked his methods or his need for press, but Kevorkian fought for what should be a basic human right. The right to die without needless suffering.

BUMP. Well said.

15 posted on 12/13/2006 12:43:30 PM PST by Constitution Day ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." — Aldous Huxley)
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To: Just another Joe; Lunatic Fringe
Just another Joe>If someone really wants to commit suicide they will find a way.

And often, that requires the assistance of someone else. Many patients are overly optimistic about what they will be able to do as they decline, and end up being unable to carry out their preferences without help of another.

Also, there are many disabled persons who require the assistance of others in their other activities. There should be similar allowance for this one.

Lunatic Fringe>Agreed. Especially terminally ill patients.

I never liked his methods or his need for press, but Kevorkian fought for what should be a basic human right. The right to die without needless suffering.

Yes, Kevorkian seems to be a very sick man, and although he fought for a good cause, his methods and reasons were seemingly misguided.

One of society's biggest problems today is the lack of respect for individuals and their rights and preferences and desires. It's sad to see people supporting the idea that government or other people know better than the individual, on an issue as personal as when and how to die.

98 posted on 12/13/2006 2:11:45 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
You have that right and nobody can take it away from you. Its called suicide. I dont suggest anybody do it but no law can stop it so its their business. Try to force me through my government to bless that suicide and we have a problem.
127 posted on 12/13/2006 3:37:45 PM PST by mthom
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Natural law theory, the moral theory upon which our country was founded, says that action is immoral which hinders the quest for self-preservation, procreation, knowledge, and sociability. Furthermore, we are in many respects a paternalistic country (ie, laws requiring helmets on motorcycles). Laws against suicide are in no way conflicting with American values.


130 posted on 12/13/2006 4:04:42 PM PST by glennshepard (Semper Fi, Beat Army)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
but Kevorkian fought for what should be a basic human right. The right to die without needless suffering.

Balderdash. Kervorkian is a monster, a serial murderer, who fought for the right to murder innocent people. If a terminally ill, or not termainally ill, person wants to end their suffering, no one is stopping them. Let them put a gun in their mouths, jump off a high cliff, take an overdose of barbituates, etc. Let them do it to themselves.

But no one has the right to call in another person to help do them in. By dragging in that other person, you're just turning that person into a murderer.

139 posted on 12/13/2006 4:48:30 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Kevorkian fought for what should be a basic human right.

Kevorkian was a ghoul obsessed with death as evidenced by his actions and writings while still in college and the crap he painted throughout his life.

I equate him to a nymphomaniac prostitute who says she does what she does only because she needs the money.......

208 posted on 12/14/2006 10:50:08 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I taped a broom handle to my cat and turned her into a dust mop)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I never liked his methods or his need for press, but Kevorkian fought for what should be a basic human right. The right to die without needless suffering.

Living in Michigan, I followed the entire saga of Doctor death closely and came to two conclusions about him:

1. He was never interested in a persons right to die but was advocating a doctors right to kill.

2. He was a demented publicity hound. It got so bad that you could almost predict the next assisted suicide. As soon as the story of the previous assisted suicide was no longer front page news, the next one occured.

267 posted on 12/15/2006 9:37:22 PM PST by CharacterCounts (-)
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