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Scientists grapple over sunspot cycle
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/12/06 | Alicia Chang - ap

Posted on 12/12/2006 8:53:37 PM PST by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO - Scientists are deadlocked over the severity of the next sunspot cycle, which could produce powerful solar storms that can disrupt communication systems on Earth.

A panel of space weather forecasters has been sifting through about three dozen predictions from 15 nations that differ widely in how intense the next solar cycle will be. The group, run by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and funded by NASA, aims to make an official prediction in spring 2007.

While scientists have observed sunspots — dark, cool blemishes — on the sun's surface since the days of Galileo, they've been unable to accurately forecast the severity of the eruptions associated with the spots. Sunspots are best known for triggering solar flares.

The debate over the next cycle, known as solar cycle 24, has been "passionate," said Douglas Biesecker, a physicist at NOAA's Space Environment Center who heads the panel.

No clear prediction has emerged yet from the various computer models that simulate the sun's activity, Biesecker said Tuesday during a meeting of the American Geophysical Union.

Forecasts vary so wildly that predictions for the peak sunspot number range from 42 to 185.

"You have scientists who each have their own idea of what the cycle is going to be and everybody believes they're right," Biesecker said.

Governments and companies increasingly rely on space weather forecasts to guard against possible failures of power grids and radio communications when solar storms explode with massive bursts of magnetic energy and radiation that barrel toward Earth at millions of miles per hour.

Solar activity occurs when the sun's magnetic field lines twist and turn as it rotates. The process spews out millions of tons of superheated charged particles into space.

Scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research made headlines earlier this year when they predicted that solar cycle 24 will be between 30 percent and 50 percent stronger than the current one and will begin a year later. The researchers based their forecast on a sophisticated computer model that others contend has not yet been proven reliable.

The intensity of the next sunspot cycle could have consequences for the aging Hubble Space Telescope, which has beamed back stunning images of star births and galaxies, said Dean Pesnell, a project scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center who predicts a weak solar cycle.

A weak cycle would mean that Hubble would experience less atmospheric drag and stay in orbit longer while a strong cycle could force NASA to boost the telescope so that it stays in place, Pesnell said.

David Hathaway, a researcher at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center who predicts a strong sunspot cycle, said the biggest hurdle is trying to forecast how the sun will act with little data to work with.

"It's like listening to a freight train in the distance to estimate the size of the train," Hathaway said.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: callingartbell; climatechange; grapple; nasa; scientists; solar; solarsol; sunspot

1 posted on 12/12/2006 8:53:37 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

On the Net:

American Geophysical Union: http://www.agu.org


2 posted on 12/12/2006 8:53:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Merry Something PC.)
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To: NormsRevenge
FRom Space Weather

Modern Methods: Unlocking the Secrets of the Sun


Friedrich Woeger, KIS; Chris Berst and Mark Komsa, NSO/AURA/NSF. Color added.

Figure 1: The image of a sunspot, produced by the Dunn Solar Telescope, shows the influence of adaptive optics on resolution. A NASA image of Earth is added for scale, and both Earth and sunspot are artificially blurred on the left half to simulate normal, uncorrected seeing through Earth's atmosphere.

3 posted on 12/12/2006 8:59:00 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Merry Something PC.)
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To: NormsRevenge
It's Bush's fault.

Women and minorities will be hardest hit.

4 posted on 12/12/2006 9:09:27 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: NormsRevenge

But the fact that the sun has been unusually active doesn't have anything to do with "global warming"...

I think there's a link.


5 posted on 12/12/2006 9:09:37 PM PST by DB
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To: KevinDavis; sig226

Ping


6 posted on 12/12/2006 9:11:40 PM PST by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh man, I can't wait!

6 meters will be soooooo open!


7 posted on 12/12/2006 9:19:44 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: NormsRevenge

ACK!


8 posted on 12/12/2006 9:25:45 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: DB
A little dry, but you can look at some folks' thoughts on that here...

http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm04/fm04-sessions/fm04_U41B.html
9 posted on 12/12/2006 9:32:23 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: ASOC

Never been on 50 MHz myself. I gather you enjoy the band?


10 posted on 12/12/2006 9:37:48 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/sun/activity/sunspot_history.html

Here is an excellent primer on sunspots, and the correlation with earth's weather.


11 posted on 12/12/2006 10:12:31 PM PST by Sundog (Have you watched a good sunset lately?)
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To: NormsRevenge
A panel of space weather forecasters

I hope they are better than terrestrial weather forecasters

13 posted on 12/12/2006 10:18:30 PM PST by technomage (Protest Voters are ignorant, immature, selfish people who have no capacity for long term thinking)
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places

Nope, but I thought if the sunspots were going to be THAT hot. Well then, maybe the Royal Order of Hoot-owls would be out and I could bag a couple from here in KL7-land.


14 posted on 12/12/2006 10:45:48 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: ASOC
...the Royal Order of Hoot-owls

Never heard of 'em. The little party group I belonged to is called the Boring Old Farts. We were sort of a mockery of the rest of them.

15 posted on 12/13/2006 9:53:16 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: Wiffle Head
Solar activity certainly is a factor in radio propagation. Big solar flares do cause some sporadic events like that. The sunspot cycle itself is an 11 year cycle and through that time there is a more predictable series of changes in propagation.

I know of what you speak though. Here in Eugene our biggest AM station is 50,000 Watts on a so-called clear channel, but sometimes we hear a little daylight Mexican station on top of it, and there have been a couple of occasions where the local station has been drowned out completely, even in the lobes of it's antenna pattern. The folks in the null just East of the towers get it a lot worse.

16 posted on 12/13/2006 10:21:22 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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