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Did A Lone Rabbi Mean to Ban Christmas Trees?
Townhall.com ^ | December 10, 2006 | Michael Medved

Posted on 12/11/2006 8:14:08 AM PST by beaversmom

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To: Alouette
Do you not know how to read english? What is it about this quote from the story that you don't understand?

A rabbi wanted to install an eight-foot menorah and have a public lighting ceremony. He threatened to sue if the menorah wasn’t put up and gave a two day deadline to remove the trees.
241 posted on 12/11/2006 11:55:23 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: WashingtonSource
Good for Michael Medved for getting to the bottom of this!

Amen.

242 posted on 12/11/2006 11:56:57 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Medved only makes frends with Republicans?


243 posted on 12/11/2006 11:57:16 AM PST by DManA
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To: Kirkwood
What is it about this quote from the story that you don't understand?

Do you know what a direct quote is? A direct quote is, Mr. So-and-so said, "I gave them a deadline of two days before I bring in my pack of attack dog lawyers."

THAT is a direct quote. What you posted is, now discredited, hearsay.

244 posted on 12/11/2006 12:05:57 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 97-103)
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To: Alouette
Reread. " He threatened to sue if the menorah wasn’t put up and gave a two day deadline to remove the trees."

Actually, were I the airport admin, I'd remove the trees. The airport had no other choice, because they were being asked to host a public religious ceremony. Only I'd do it at high noon after several phone calls to media.

245 posted on 12/11/2006 12:06:48 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Reread. " He threatened to sue if the menorah wasn’t put up and gave a two day deadline to remove the trees." Actually, were I the airport admin, I'd remove the trees. The airport had no other choice, because they were being asked to host a public religious ceremony. Only I'd do it at high noon after several phone calls to media.

I would too. Menorahs at the airport would suck. I'd generate all the publicity I could.

246 posted on 12/11/2006 12:08:20 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: Kirkwood
Did you happen to read the first four words of the paragraph from which you quote a news report?

"According to misleading news stories"

This entire piece by Medved is to correct the erroneous reports that the Rabbi sought removal of the trees (which I understand the airport now admits)

It is the airport, which so uncertain of their stance to deny the Menorah, went crazy on the trees.

It would be like a landlord sued on account of discrimination, then refusing to rent to anyone or even burning down his building.

247 posted on 12/11/2006 12:10:33 PM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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To: TomGuy
If they hadn't disseminated details of this incident, we probably would not know anything about it.

MSM news reports should not be trusted at first glance as a general rule. They will generally report stories if and only if the story furthers their left-wing agenda, and kill those that do not.

In this case, we would probably all be better off if the details of the incident were not disseminated in a typical MSM feeding frenzy. It would have been more prudent to report the story only if an actual suit had been filed.

248 posted on 12/11/2006 12:10:44 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Alouette
It is discredited by whom? The rabbi and his lawyer? By Medved who is a friend of a friend of the rabbi? Please! Don't be so naive. Of course the rabbi is going into damage control and backpedaling furiously. So did Michael Richards and Mel Gibson. I think the original intent of the rabbi was clear - to take down the trees if he couldn't get a menorah put up as well.
249 posted on 12/11/2006 12:15:11 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Sabramerican

Dude. Medved wrote this. He is a friend of a friend. You don't think that his OPINION is somewhat slanted compared to the truth??? He is nothing more than a movie critic, not an investigative reporter and certainly not unbiased.


250 posted on 12/11/2006 12:17:04 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood; Alouette
It is discredited by whom? The rabbi and his lawyer? By Medved who is a friend of a friend of the rabbi? Please! Don't be so naive.

Perhaps reputation and track record.

As Alouette has noted, Chabad has put up thousands of Menorahs. Aside from the pics she's posted, I believe they're at the Eifel Tower, the White House, and the Governor's mansion in the State of Washington.

From those many displays, will you please name those where Chabad objected to the display of a Christmas Tree.

In the absence of dozens of incidents, why should I believe you?

251 posted on 12/11/2006 12:18:53 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: Sabramerican
We have endured years of ACLU lawyers riding roughshod over small towns--squads of smug suits suing against the most nominal of Christian symbols in public--it's bullying. It's mafia-esque. It is SPITE. This Rabbi just loaded one two many straws on the backs of traditional Americans.

Lawsuits RUIN people. They ruin lives and families and communities. That's why they WORK to vent the resentments and spite of those who hire the lawyers in the first place.

252 posted on 12/11/2006 12:19:12 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: beaversmom
According to the rabbi’s lawyer, Harvey Grad...

The first sign of what went wrong in the article.

Bringing a lawyer to ask a favor, is like bringing a gun to ask for charity.

253 posted on 12/11/2006 12:19:57 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Kirkwood; Alouette; Sabramerican
It is discredited by whom? The rabbi and his lawyer? By Medved who is a friend of a friend of the rabbi? Please! Don't be so naive.

I'm naive, so you'll help me out.

I believe the Rabbi because of Chabad's reputation and extensive track record.

As Alouette has noted, Chabad has put up thousands of Menorahs. Aside from the pics she's posted, I believe they're at the Eifel Tower, the White House, and the Governor's mansion in the State of Washington.

From those many displays, will you please name those where Chabad objected to the display of a Christmas Tree.

In the absence of dozens of incidents, why should I believe you?

254 posted on 12/11/2006 12:20:16 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: TC Rider
re: Bringing a lawyer to ask a favor, is like bringing a gun to ask for charity.)))

Bump.

255 posted on 12/11/2006 12:21:22 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Kirkwood

Dude. The airport admits now that no demand was made on the trees.

The Rabbi has every right to ask for the display of a Menorah. If it is denied, the airport has the burden to state a reasonable reason as to their decision. If they will do so only if forced by a Court, that is the Rabbi's right too.

Instead they "washed their hands" of the issue of the display of religion in the public square. So unChristian of them.


256 posted on 12/11/2006 12:24:55 PM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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To: Mamzelle

This has nothing to do with the ACLU.

Exactly the opposite.

This is a request for the INCLUSION of religion in the public square.

Conservative legal foundations should be on the side of the Menorah.


257 posted on 12/11/2006 12:26:59 PM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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To: TL04

"Try being a Jew 50 years ago in the U.S. or 5 minutes ago in many other countries and see who gives a * about your rights."

The only trouble my family had was circa 1563. There was a nasty event where several family members were burned at the stake in Neuva Leon for daring to keep the Sabbath.

After that, it's been OK, but we've been pretty low-key until the last 40 years.


258 posted on 12/11/2006 12:27:18 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: James Ewell Brown Stuart

Did I mention, I'm niggardly with my finances?


lol


259 posted on 12/11/2006 12:33:18 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
If they hadn't disseminated details of this incident, we probably would not know anything about it.

Using that logic, if Walter Cronkite hadn't disseminated reports about how the Tet offensive was a military disaster for the US, and intoned "We have lost", we probably wouldn't have known anything about it.

Journalism is a sloppily-practiced profession today. We've reached the point where today we have to view news professionals like we view politicians and lawyers - with a jaundiced eye.

Sad, but true...

ca....

260 posted on 12/11/2006 12:37:57 PM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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