Posted on 12/11/2006 7:21:34 AM PST by NavyCanDo
The departure of Christmas tree displays at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport — the Port of Seattle's response to a local rabbi's insistence that an electric menorah also be put up — is accelerating into an international spectacle in the so-called "war on Christmas."
And that is not what Rabbi Elazar Bogomilsky wanted.
"I am devastated, shocked and appalled at the decision that the Port of Seattle came to," he said Sunday. As news coverage about the airport's trees spread from CNN to ABC to the Paris-based International Herald Tribune, Bogomilsky on Sunday began to receive hateful messages from people holding him responsible for the removal of the trees.
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Do Jews go to Temple for Hannukah?
Hanukkah, is the celebration of a victory, in a war...in other words it is the celebration of the defeat, of a enemy
And Jesus Christ is the Celebration of defeat of a enemy named *Death*
There are some very distinct similarities.
"I suppose Moses was also throwing a temper tantrum whe he saw his people worshipping a Golden Calf???"
Are you comparing the practice of animal sacrifice, as specified in the Torah, at the Temple in Jerusalem, with... crafting and worshipping an idol?
Think about that one.
"Do Jews go to Temple for Hannukah?"
Some go to their synagogue.
THE Temple was destroyed by the Romans.
When it is restored, you can bet there will be a menorah!
I was referring to your post in regards to Jesus throwing a Temper Tantrum which seems a bit condesending and blasphemous. Since Jesus is the Ultimate Authority on Torah I think he has every right to get angry with certain practices and hypocrisy he sees.
God does anger.....
The law is for man not for God.
My input to the topic, questions the common acceptance that Hanukkah, is to be celebrated, on a par with the birth of a baby...and for sure it isn't...and for my money Hanukkah is an affront to birth of a baby, a Savior...in other words...how can the death of an enemy, be celebrated on a par with the beginning of life, as symbolized by the birth of a baby...regardless of the future of that baby
I have every respect and love for Judiasm, but if you believe that we will still be under the law when the temple is restored and Messiah returns you are sadly mistaken.
No where in the Bible does it say that one day when the Messiah returns we will be under any one religion.
So just SOME go to synagogue? It's not a day of High Holyday?
"Hanukkah, is the celebration of a victory, in a war...in other words it is the celebration of the defeat, of a enemy....NOW, Christmas is the celebration of the birth a baby, who, would become a Saviour....please tell me how one can compare the two occasions...how do we celebrate in a "joyous" frame of mind for two very different situations...."
Good point.
Hanukkah happened and the Maccabees restored the temple.
Jesus happened and the Temple was destroyed.
An argument that many Christians use is that the temple was no longer necessary... but if that's the case, was it ever necessary? If not, why did God command Solomon to build it in the first place as a symbol for Israel to turn their hearts towards, and away from the pagan ways of their neighbors?
Jeffrey - that was one of the most wonderful things I've read so far - sure puts things into perspective! Thanks so much for passing that on - I sure did - to everyone I know.
Not sure what you are saying here, but Jesus Christ as a Jew would of celebrated Hannukah, so many Jews who believe Jesus is the risen Messiah will celebrate Hannukah, Gentiles who are Christians do not celebrate Hannukah becuse it has not been part of thier tradition.
"I was referring to your post in regards to Jesus throwing a Temper Tantrum which seems a bit condesending and blasphemous. Since Jesus is the Ultimate Authority on Torah I think he has every right to get angry with certain practices and hypocrisy he sees."
Disagree with Tara P = blasphemer.
Jesus, whose followers don't follow the Torah, is the ultimate expert, even though his followers don't follow it except for misunderstanding bad translations, ignoring the tradition of scholars of the original text and instead following second and third hand accounts of a mans life written in some cases a century after his death.
Try Again Tara.
Well, that's pretty damned insulting. I have never thought of CHRISTMAS as an "orgy of consumerism." Thank you for your kind words about my religion and our customs, perhaps you and the Rabbi are related?
You are no Talmudist, and your cut and paste appears on many anti-Jewish websites (because of the replicated misspellings).
The Babylonian Talmud consists of twenty-four volumes and takes up an entire shelf, and each volume is about 3 feet high. And it is entirely written in Aramaic.
You are a "Talmudic scholar" like I am Santa Claus.
As I said before *Torah* is for man not for GOD.
When Jesus ascended into heaven he never said BTW: Judaism is no longer necessary, he said Now Go and Preach the Gospels to all the nations" The apostles had a big job becuase they had no idea how to bring the Gentiles into the fold, so tradition and Torah became a bit confusing, it was pretty easy at the time to preach to the Jews about Christ as they were part of the Jewish Community and worshipped in the Synagogue.
The Apostles could not bring every Gentile into Jewish belief that Jesus Christ was the Messiah for all mankind.
The Jews had been persecuted for so long they could reach the Gentile World to a point about Jesus then as history dictates we ended with how many denominations in Christianity.
"So just SOME go to synagogue? It's not a day of High Holyday?"
Is Christmas a "High Holiday?"
I've never seen a 25% off Yom Kippur sale...
To learn about the Talmud you go to Come and hear , you visit Carol "on the web" Valentine, a well known internut conspiracy theorist and Jew obsessive.
Personally, I wouldn't admit that, even if you want to give Carol's site (barred here I believe) some publicity. It consigns your opinion to the *rapper.
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