Posted on 12/10/2006 12:09:59 PM PST by FairOpinion
Iraq's national security adviser on Sunday said that Iraq needs more "strategic patience" from Washington to defeat terrorist violence that threatens to swarm the region if the U.S. pulls out too soon.
"If we don't act to contain al-Qaida, the violence will spread like hell, not only to Saudi Arabia and the GCC (Gulf Arab) countries but to Syria, Iran and beyond," al-Rubaie told the International Institute of Strategic Studies conference in the Bahraini capital.
"We in Iraq would like you to exercise some strategic patience for this paradigm shift," al-Rubaie said. "We need some time to retreat to our own quarters and develop a new identity."
He said America would appear humiliated before the Muslim world if it followed the report's conclusions and pulled out of all U.S. combat brigades by early 2008, as the report suggests.
"I would like to ask the American people, what would the perception of the world's only hyperpower be if it pulls out? What kind of psychological and moral boost would this give to al-Qaida and the like?" he asked.
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Only those who want to see the US defeated could support the ISG recommendations.
Let me remind everyone of the excerpt from Bin Laden's fatwa against the US, that I have on my FR home page:
Excerpt from Bin Laden's Declaration of War on the US in 1996
""But your most disgraceful case was in Somalia; where- after vigorous propaganda about the power of the USA and its post cold war leadership of the new world order- you moved tens of thousands of international force, including twenty eight thousands American solders into Somalia.
However, when tens of your solders were killed in minor battles and one American Pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu you left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you. Clinton appeared in front of the whole world threatening and promising revenge , but these threats were merely a preparation for withdrawal. You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew; the extent of your impotence and weaknesses became very clear. It was a pleasure for the "heart" of every Muslim and a remedy to the "chests" of believing nations to see you defeated in the three Islamic cities of Beirut , Aden and Mogadishu. "
If this is what Bin Laden said after Somalia, just think what the terrorists will say, if we withdraw from Iraq before the job is done. THIS is where the Dems want to take the US: back into weakness, which emboldens terrorists.
What? I thought UBL was a contributing member of the ISG committee? No?
I think President Bush realizes this. I think he'll stay the course, but work on speeding things up a bit where he can.
As I see it, there IS no other way to get over this hill than to go through it. The Dems and Libs just posture away because they see this too, but were born to be nattering neigh-bobs of negativity. (Or maybe they are as clueless as they appear? Yeah. That's more likely, LOL!)
While I'm all for more fire power and @ss kickin' of terrorists, I'm thinking this thing called 'Democracy' has it's own timetable, which we can do little about.
How old is OUR Democracy again? Didn't it just happen overnight with no bloodshed and everyone involved just sitting around, holding hands and singing Kumbaya? *Wink*
Wish he would have said this earlier and often. It's a little late now, after the rats already took congress.
Very good points about our democracy. I don't think we can make this part of the world think like westerners. I think the mistake in the administration's dealing with Iraq is this Don Quioixtish idea of democratizing these backwards folks.
I don't believe in pushing our beliefs on others. Once we caught Saddam, we should have executed him on Iraqi TV, packed up our bags, and left a big note on the door of Iraq reminding whoever takes control to remember what happenned to Saddam. With a promise to return and string up another pain in our ass if necessary. That would have made the point very clear in these savages minds.
I don't want my enemies to love me. I don't want them to hate me. I wan't them to FEAR me.
Well, gee, I thought us being there was driving the terror. /s I mean, that's what the big media says, right?
Be assured, that President Bush is more than interested in continuing the presence of US and coalition forces in Iraq, he is committed to continue the support to the last hour of the last day of his term of office.
Beyond Bush, nobody may be certain of what support will be provided to the nascent Iraqi elective representative republic form of government that now exists. The Dem'crats in Congress do not have much devotion to that ideal, and none of the neighboring countries have much use for such a revolutionary concept in their midst. As far as preserving and extending democratic ideals in the Middle East is concerned, the future of Israel is more than a little doubtful, ESPECIALLY if Dem'crats do manage to send a President to the White House. We have it on no less than the authority of a former Dem'crat President, that the Palestinians are fully justified, and the Jews should be driven from Israel into the sea. This, of course, will immediately put out the fires that fuel the unrest in the Middle East, and the world can get back to normal.
Well, Dem'crat-normal. Endlessly pandering and cowering before strongly-worded threats, and surrendering up real estate in those unimportant parts of the world outside and inside the US.
All with the aid and guidance of the UN.
"I don't want my enemies to love me. I don't want them to hate me. I want them to FEAR me."
Agreed. Sadly, the rest of the world hasn't really feared us since President Reagan was around. *SNIF*
'My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you I just signed legislation which outlaws Russia forever. The bombing begins in five minutes.'
~ Ronald Reagan (1911-2004), Said during a radio microphone test, 1984
Iraq report insulting - Talabani
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,9294,2-10-1460_2042917,00.html
Baghdad - President Jalal Talabani, a long-time US ally, made a stinging attack on the controversial Iraq Study Group report on Sunday, calling it "dangerous" and insulting to Iraqi sovereignty.
"As a whole, I reject this report," he said.
"I think that the Baker-Hamilton report is not fair and not just, and it contains dangerous articles which undermine the sovereignty of Iraq and its consitution."
Oh? Does he mean like the present, current, or the moment? What is this person attempting to tell me?
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U.S. pull-out of a Free South Vietnam and then the cutoff of all funding for it to fight for its own Freedom with =
Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp
http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts
Will the cutoff of 12 million purple Iraqi voting fingers be the first of many ugly prices paid after a U.S. pullout of a Free Iraq..?
Just THINK about it.
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The terrorists saw a fat turkey, and are waiting for harvest. Remember, these are the clowns who believe that infadels - that would be us in the west - can be lied to at any time, our heads are forfeit if we do not accept Allah.
My recommendation - a full burst 180 degrees back at these clowns.
Gird up your loins boys! Or as Jim Carey says in "The Mask."
".....Hold onto your lug nuts! It's time for an overhaul!"
SS
Who is the idiot who called for the fast moving freight train?
Slow down and take a breath for God's sake.
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