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"The Mitt Romney Deception" IS the Deception
Alains Newsletter & MassResistance ^ | Dec 2006 | Brian Camenker

Posted on 12/10/2006 11:02:08 AM PST by Jeff Fuller

"Despite recent statements across the country by Governor Mitt Romney claiming he’s pro-life, pro-family and a committed conservative, a broad investigation of his actual statements, actions, and public positions over the years indicates that he has spent his entire career speaking and governing as a liberal – and that his new found conversion to conservatism very likely coincides with his candidacy for the presidency."

Please refer to comment #1 to see what a shoddy piece of work this is. If they are trying to convince people of something, they should at least get SOME of the facts right and not rely on the Boston Globe, Bay Windows, and The Boston Phoenix as their "authoritative sources".

(Excerpt) Read more at alainsnewsletter.com ...


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To: linda_22003

Thank you. It would be too much to expect Teddy to have a close call, I guess, although one could always hope...


21 posted on 12/10/2006 12:09:10 PM PST by gb63
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To: Jeff Fuller

Romney was rated B by the NRA, never said he was pro choice and was always against gay marriage. But for some reason the new york times and the boston globe want us to think otherwise. Now why would that be?


22 posted on 12/10/2006 12:10:41 PM PST by De Civitate Dei
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To: kenavi

You can save your breath, because the wacko 100%ers are not listening. The facts dont mean anything in the face of what they want. They dont have a viable candidate, they never have had a viable candidate. These are the Buchananites trying to sneak back into the party after being booted for their nonsense. They will remain nothing but a nuisance right up to the election where they will endorse some nut like Tancredo as their representative.


23 posted on 12/10/2006 12:12:28 PM PST by Pukin Dog (I will vote for Hillary Clinton for President, before I will vote for John McCain.)
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To: linda_22003

""since he came close to taking Ted Kennedy's Senate seat in 1994."


Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat, 1,266,011, 58.1%.
W. Mitt Romney, Republican, 894,005, 41.0%

Hoo-wee, that was a squeaker, all right. ;)"

Kennedy's next opponent lost by 60 points. His previous one (88') lost by 32. Kennedy has beaten his opponents by, on average, over 40 points. So yes, losing by 17 to Teddy Kennedy in Massachussetts (13% Republican Massachussetts) after Kennedy brought in every single big name Democrat in the country when October polls showed him losing, is a political miracle not to be replicated in my lifetime.


24 posted on 12/10/2006 12:15:28 PM PST by Obilisk18
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To: Jeff Fuller

I also have a link to this on my personal page. By the way, does anybody really know what has happened to Alain lately? He hasn't written for quite awhile.


25 posted on 12/10/2006 12:27:05 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: Obilisk18

Not to be replicated in your lifetime? Look at the bright side; maybe you'll outlive Ted and get to see another Senator from Massachusetts.


26 posted on 12/10/2006 12:30:59 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: Pukin Dog
To me, your tagline is contrary to that post. Romney is more liberal than McCain by a long shot. So why is it "100% conservatism" nonsense, when we tell people what it's like to be governed by someone who is the best MA could do for a Republican? Most here feel just that, and that we can do better for President. Anyone who has not lived under the oppression of liberal/socialist activism in governance has no idea what it is like!
27 posted on 12/10/2006 12:38:43 PM PST by gidget7 (Political Correctness is Marxism with a nose job)
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To: Jeff Fuller
Fuller, your propaganda machine stinks to high heaven.

Mitt Romney tacks left, right, wherever he thinks will win him an election and advance his career.

28 posted on 12/10/2006 12:48:25 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: De Civitate Dei
Romney was rated B by the NRA

He signed the permanent Massachusetts Assault Weapons Ban and supported the federal AWB.

never said he was pro choice

BS BS BS, Mitt Romney publicly and repeatedly trumpeted his supported for legal abortion .... until he gave up on Massachusetts and started running for president. Look at what he told NARAL in his most recent election, seeking their endorsement:

"I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002


29 posted on 12/10/2006 12:52:18 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: Jeff Fuller
Gay Rights Issues: The MSM is on this "kick" now too . . .see this Boston Globe article and this New York Times piece in the last two days. Bottom line, he has NEVER been in favor of gay marriage or civil unions but he has also always been against discrimination of gays.

By "discrimination of gays", I assume you mean the multitude of gay rights issues that Mitt Romney supports, the special rights agenda which are the building blocks leading to gay marriage?

You sound just like a liberal, trumpeting your boss's commitment to gays in the Boy Scouts, gay adoptions, gay "non-discrimination", benefits for gay partners, etc etc etc.

30 posted on 12/10/2006 12:56:33 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Some folks around here are trying really hard to make RKBA a non-issue.

George Bush opposed repeal of the Brady Bill . Is there a difference between Bush and Romney?

31 posted on 12/10/2006 1:16:57 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: JohnnyZ
Romney...supported the federal AWB.

So did Bush who you've supported, haven't you? Why does Bush get a pass, but for Romney this is an unforgiveable apostasy?

32 posted on 12/10/2006 1:25:52 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Jeff Fuller

I am absolutely astounded at the vigorous and underhanded effort to destroy anyone who might pose an actual threat to the "front runners." My goodness, who could be behind all of this? /s


33 posted on 12/10/2006 1:26:08 PM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: Plutarch
Why does Bush get a pass, but for Romney this is an unforgiveable apostasy?

So you're saying I should like Romney because he has all of Bush's flaws and none of his strengths?

Bush at least engineered it so the AWB died despite his promise to sign it "if it reached" his desk -- just as I predicted would happen, so he gets some mitigation there. Romney not only endorsed the concept of the federal ban but passed and signed his own permanent AWB in Massachusetts.

Of course being anti-gun is only one of Romney's many failings, the chief one being a finger-in-the-wind slimy phony two-faced John Edwards wannabe.

34 posted on 12/10/2006 1:40:03 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: JohnnyZ
Romney is not my boss and I'm no liberal.

There is no "propaganda machine"

I am a Vitreoretinal fellow at the University of Iowa and I decided to start a blogsite for Romney after studying the field several months ago. I do this in my spare time and by myself. Not the big "collusion" or machine that you have imagined up.

I guess the full-blown homo-phobes may conclude for his anti-discrimination stances that Romney is not their candidate . . . can't please everyone and can't get every vote.

You say: "commitment to gays in the Boy Scouts" . . . you must have a Master's degree in Hyperbole. Name what he has done to PROMOTE said "commitment" . . . Besides a RESPONSE to a question asked to him during his first debate with Kennedy in 1994 about the highly controversial gays in the BSA what else do ya got? I'm guessing NADA. Hardly the "commitment" you've imagined up and are dishonestly trying to convince others of.

What you and others always leave out of the said quote is that DID SAY THAT HE BELIEVED THE BOY SCOUTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION

Also, "Commitment to . . . gay adoption?" Boy, let me tell you that he's no "champion" of this but has long said that "every child deserves a mother and a father". He also went to bat for the Catholic charities adoption services when they were under pressure for not allowing their kids to be placed with homosexual couples.

Also, please name the legislation he proposed or signed that extended special rights homosexuals . . . See, all this stuff comes from his 1994 race against Teddy K. He DIDN'T make these assurances of "more effective leadership" to the gay community in his 2002 race for Gov and he is consistantly bashed by the gay community nationwide (the extremists on both ends have Romney in the crosshairs on these homosexual issues . . . that sounds about the right place to be.)
35 posted on 12/10/2006 1:40:52 PM PST by Jeff Fuller (http://iowansforromney.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jeff Fuller
There is no "propaganda machine"

Just what spews forth from your keyboard.

I guess the full-blown homo-phobes may conclude for his anti-discrimination stances that Romney is not their candidate

Liberal, liberal, liberal .... the name-calling (people who don't support "gay rights" are "homo-phobes" (sic)), trying to play "gay rights" as an issue of discrimination, please, you sicken me.

He also went to bat for the Catholic charities adoption services when they were under pressure for not allowing their kids to be placed with homosexual couples.

Oh please, no he didn't and you know it. Quit the lying, it's disgusting. He said he'd help, could have helped, but then did a 180 and did nothing. Flip, flop, let's play both sides.... Oh, right, he tried to win himself brownie points by supporting legislation that would never have a chance of passing, if it was ever even written up as a bill.

Also, please name the legislation he proposed or signed that extended special rights homosexuals . . .

he said he would support domestic partnership benefits, at one point saying they would become a "hallmark of my leadership as governor." ... Romney has broader goals in mind, and will use this opportunity to establish further rights for gay couples, Fehrnstrom said. "At the end of the day, same-sex couples will end up with more rights and benefits than they previously enjoyed," he said. http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,525039435,00.html

I'm sure you have more info on the gay rights legislation Romney has championed -- if you weren't so duplicitous and seeking to hide his pro-gay record you'd post it yourself.

36 posted on 12/10/2006 1:51:30 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: JohnnyZ
Bush at least engineered it so the AWB died despite his promise to sign it "if it reached" his desk...

Bush had no problems signing a restriction on the First Amendment when it "reached his desk", so too he likely would have done the same with the Second Amendment.

The MA State Senate is 35 Dems to 5 Republicans. The House is 135 to 21. Do you think that an AWB with a veto proof majority is likely to "reach the desk" of a Governor in that State?

Bush was Governor of fricking Texas. Why he couldn't bring himself to oppose the Brady Bill? Maybe he was Edwards-chameleon like looking to moderate his position for the the 2000 Presidential election?

37 posted on 12/10/2006 1:57:06 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: To Hell With Poverty
I was pro-choice for a while, staunchly against it now.

So does that mean you're in favor of passing Federal laws to prohibit abortion in all 50 states? Or would you instead see Roe vs. Wade overthrown and revert it to the states?

I favor the latter over the former -- I humbly consider myself a states-righter. So when I hear someone apply or take either label with regard to choice, it tells me little.

38 posted on 12/10/2006 2:10:58 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Lincoln did not "save his breath" when our country was caught in a similar division over slavery. The Abolitionists had little use for his toleration of slavery in the slave states in order to save the Union. Today's Abolitionists against the wrong of abortion have many more ways to accomplish their goals within the political framework, essentially it starts with Supreme Court judges who are willing to let the states individually decide the issue for themselves. The rest should be left to citizens to reach out to their fellow citizens in a positive and loving manner to save unwanted children and encourage positive attitudes so that more mothers want their children.


39 posted on 12/10/2006 2:20:44 PM PST by kenavi (Save romance. Stop teen sex.)
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To: linda_22003

In MA against Ted K that's about as close as anyone's gotten!

...Slick Willard...?


40 posted on 12/10/2006 2:27:35 PM PST by raccoonradio
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