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CA: Droves say goodbye to Golden State
Mercury News ^ | 12/10/06 | Mike Swift

Posted on 12/10/2006 10:28:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Wayne Brown gave up $40,000 in income to move from the Bay Area to Kansas. And he feels great.

It got to be too much last year for the college information-technology officer: the commute to downtown San Francisco that sometimes took two hours, the housing-price spiral and the high-wire borrowing that paid for it.

``I would find myself sitting in traffic,'' Brown recalled, ``screaming at people.''

When the Kansas job came up in early 2005, Brown and his wife, Teresa, sold two Bay Area homes and happily settled in a suburb of Kansas City. They have never looked back.

The Browns are an example of what demographers say appears to be an unprecedented phenomenon -- even in a good economy, more people are leaving California for other states than are arriving from the rest of the country.

Between 2004 and 2005, the migration flow into California from the other 49 states started flowing the other way. Data from the state Department of Finance shows that, for the first time this decade, more people left California in 2005 for another state than the number who moved in. Mary Heim, a finance department demographer, says this particular kind of outflow will continue for the foreseeable future.

Unlike the tens of thousands who left Silicon Valley following the tech bust earlier this decade, the new migration is about the quest for something besides a job: a better quality of life at a lower cost of living.

--snip--

... California's population of 37 million people is still growing, because of a surplus of births over deaths and because of foreign immigration.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2bsayingbyeoon; caexodus; california; crimigration; droves; foreigninvasion; goldenstate; goodbye; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; invasionusa; landoffruitsandnuts; thirdworldstate
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To: Hi Heels
One thing I never get tired of.... one more idiotic "I hate California" thread. Yessir. A plethora of stupid posts. You can almost see them scratching their butt and burping.

Here's my response to an exceptionally dumb comment.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1751344/posts?page=111#111

281 posted on 12/11/2006 9:53:13 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
So, I guess what you're saying is that you're a bigot, and that you'll only live with white people. Oh, and your facts are wrong too. I mentioned places all over the state. According to the US Census, in 2005 California was 77% white. Yes, that includes Hispanics that identify themselves as white. Like my childhood friends, way back in the 1960's that were as American as you and I.
282 posted on 12/11/2006 10:07:01 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
I came from California, and I remember the California of the 50's, 60's and even the 70's, which was truly the Golden State. Call me a biggit if you want, but the State has been ruined by illegal immigration. If for no other reason than the trash they toss all over and the graffiti the revel in.

I left and have never looked back at the State it has become. A beautiful State? Absolutely, but it's being ruined... even with all the enviro-whacko stuff that is supposed to preserve it.

283 posted on 12/11/2006 10:44:38 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

# 283 Ping Well said Carolyn!


284 posted on 12/11/2006 3:22:08 PM PST by Plains Drifter (America First, Last, and Always!!!)
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To: Clemenza
I'm' looking at Northern Florida, from Pensacola to St. Augustine.

I am in the Heavy Construction business and plan on establishing the Company in this area.
285 posted on 12/11/2006 4:09:54 PM PST by Rumplemeyer
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To: Rumplemeyer

St. Augustine is the prettiest town in Florida. Good luck!


286 posted on 12/11/2006 5:04:07 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: SoCal Pubbie

The Valley is 25% illegal....LA proper is higher. Head down to Huntington Park, 99% latino.

This summer we were in an AMPM down near H Park/Bell border, and the lady counted our change out in spanish. We cracked up and the whole place stopped!


287 posted on 12/11/2006 5:07:20 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I dont know about that 77% figure...the Census said 43% last week.


288 posted on 12/11/2006 5:11:51 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Mr. Jeeves

That's odd...when I lived in California, I was burglarized twice and carjacked in my own driveway, all during a 12 month period. I haven't had any problems where I live now. Of course, I can afford to live in a nicer neighborhood now, and maybe that's why the people "here" are less criminally-minded than the people "there." But wait, nah, according to your parable, people are the same wherever you go. I guess I can't have a better life here. I and countless others must be deluded.


289 posted on 12/11/2006 5:23:49 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: carolinalivin

My apologies for the misunderstanding.I inferred incorrectly you were alluding to something negative about Chinese and Filipinos,two groups who are generally very pro-American and hard working folks.
Again,my apologies for jumping to conclusions.


290 posted on 12/11/2006 5:56:15 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: NormsRevenge

and if you don't have illegal aliens in your town, you soon will. Illegal immigration is a nationwide problem. We need a federal government that has a backbone and willing to do something about it.


291 posted on 12/11/2006 5:58:28 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: BurbankKarl
I got the figure from the US Census website:

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html

I'm not saying there aren't places in California that high immigrant populations, that's obvious. Nor am I saying it's paradise. I'm simply saying that the statement "California (that's the whole state now) is a third world sewer" is absurd on it's face. Hey, even Burbank's not that bad!
292 posted on 12/11/2006 5:59:12 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ReagansShinyHair
My brother lives in Indiana. Let's not talk about Gary or parts of Indianapolis, shall we? BTW, for 2005, the rate per hundred thousand for forcible rape and burglary was higher in Indiana than California.
293 posted on 12/11/2006 6:07:42 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Riverman94610
No problem. I thought I'd made a mistake last year, but I was wrong.

Best wishes!

294 posted on 12/11/2006 6:29:31 PM PST by carolinalivin
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To: c-b 1
A lot of talk on this thread comparing and contrastng various US states, and also the general state of decay of certain states such as California.

Anybody here really prepared to get down to brass tacks and touch the taboo subject of the overall decay of the United States as a whole, i.e. Third Worldization, Middle-Class Hollowing Out, Massive Illegal Immigration and all its accoutrement, and which overseas areas will, in the future, for tax purposes, freedoms, education, quality of life, becomce even more preferable than the United States on the whole.

295 posted on 12/11/2006 6:59:36 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You are correct!


296 posted on 12/11/2006 7:14:29 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Yes, but you see, unlike California, I can afford to live in the nicest parts.


297 posted on 12/12/2006 7:43:46 AM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: KevinDavis
If the heat doesn't bother you, then you won't have a problem. I moved here over 10 years ago when I escaped from Kalifornia, and the only thing I miss is the ocean.

What city are you planning on relocating to?

298 posted on 12/12/2006 8:02:40 AM PST by IrishRainy (The only way BJ Clinton would have nailed bin Laden is if Ossama had been a White House intern.)
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To: ByDesign
Wow, that sounds horrible! I lived in SF back in 1979, and only for 6 months. I loved it but all my friends and family were back in SoCal so we moved back. I'm sorry to hear about what it's become.

And I hope you get out soon...

299 posted on 12/12/2006 9:23:29 AM PST by IrishRainy (The only way BJ Clinton would have nailed bin Laden is if Ossama had been a White House intern.)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Well, I guess you just lost a couple of Idahoans - Dennis Erickson and his wife are moving to Arizona.

Go Devils!

300 posted on 12/12/2006 9:36:21 AM PST by IrishRainy (The only way BJ Clinton would have nailed bin Laden is if Ossama had been a White House intern.)
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