Posted on 12/10/2006 10:28:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge
"I wouldn't mind the Flagstaff area, if I could afford it.. maybe I could take up golf or something.."
Take your jacket and earmuffs.
No~ and you certainly gave me something to think about. Look at Flagstaff, how liberal it is with NAU or UofA in Tucson, another liberal zone, then there is ASU and the libs at Tempe that defeated JD Hayworth last month.
It's a few thousand feet up there,, I'll use a black ball with a orange stripe... and an oxygen mask,, it's almost 7,000 feet in that area
Flagstaff is expensive -- a lot of wealthy from Scottsdale have summer/vacation places up there. Also very liberal thanks to NAU -- it is gorgeous, however. I love visiting there. Close to the ski resort and two hours from Lake Powell. Of course I'm biased, but Arizona is a beautiful state.
Be careful where you settle. SE Florida is filled with left-wingers from New York and New Jersey.
Me neither, but I'll admit it's getting harder and harder to push it out of my mind everyday... Harder and HARDER!!!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
It's 3000 square feet.
Memories, one of my fondest memories of California being stopped dead in six lanes of freeway traffic packed bumper to bumper and some clown in a California Highway Patrol cruiser two cars back running his red light and siren wanting me to pull over from the number 2 lane so he could get where he had to go. You gotta love it!
Ditto why I live in NJ and don't plan on leaving anytime soon. My parent's area in South Florida is essentially Scarsdale South in terms of politics, accents, and attitudes, the formerly Republican precincts in SE Pennsylvania have been inundated with NY/Philly Lefties like my Aunt, and Texas is too damn humid, at least in the cities that have jobs.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Let's see... Ernest_at_the_KC Stock Yards. Yea, I guess it has a nice ring to it...
"I loved most things about living in California, had many friends, and we were doing something every weekend in that wonderful state full of great places to go, close to the beaches, close to one of the most beautiful cities in the world, San Francisco. I moved to WA state to be closer to family, and am very glad I did. "
I used to say the same thing...funny,. tho, I don't do much of anything anymore. The beach? Too crowded, too many illegals drinking beer and harrassing people, strollers everywhere, dirty baby diapers on the sidewalk, in the sand, wierd, creepy middle eastern guys staring outright at anything female...same for museums - too crowded, baby strollers everywhere (and god help you if you don't get out of the precious liberal babies way), illegals dumping their kids there for babysitting, they run wild and break anything not nailed down (or even nailed down)...don't go to the mountains, can't afford the rentals, the traffic up, or the lines on the slopes...can't go hiking, everywhere is innundated with SUVS all weekend, and even more strollers and liberals...and traffic...movies? Forget it. Rude kids, cell phones, attitude. I don't do anything in SF anymore because of the crime, traffic, homeless people peeing and defecting on the street, the liberals...
SF is losing it's beauty, with every over-priced "luxury" condo high rise that goes up. All of the character of SF was erased in the .com boom, and was finished up with the housing boom, and whatever culture is left hides from fear of being targeted by the SF City Council and their effete Mayor.
It's gone from thinking bout getting out, to figuring out when - my entire family left, most of my friends have moved away, and the majority of the people I run into daily are the kind of people everyone else moved to get away from. I had a discussion with a born and raised Californian recently, who's very liberal, and she said she hates what CA has become, and the liberals here now scare her, as she doesnt think they're liberal at all. She's happy now, several states away, but almost cried when she saw what her state had become in only a few years.
NY has an unfair reputation for being rude, but they can't hold a candle to "Californians". (I was raised in NY, I know better, New Yorkers are the friendliest people around, they just have little patience for the idiocy of Californians). I've lived in my apartment for a year and a half now, and the ONE neighbor I saw and greeted, grunted and glared at me, and slammed his door in my face.
California will become the ultimate liberal nirvanah - mile after mile of ghetto and bario, with walled and armed enclaves for rich liberals scattered here and there. We're almost there - but i won't be.
"Chinese and Filipinos in droves"
And that is bad why?
Hey, you're a Freeper, you're VERY welcome here in AZ.
I've worked with people who have moved from California out here to suburban Kansas City. They all think they've died and moved to real estate heaven. Four bedroom, three car garage, three and a half bath houses on quiet streets go for well under $275,000. Property taxes run about $2000. They can't believe it.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
I have never had a bad experience at any of the beaches like you described, and always had fun in SF, but then I didn't live there. I didn't find most Californians to be rude, unless it was on the freeways. I agree about the liberals; I was way outnumbered as a conservative Republican, and took a lot of heck for my views. CA is the ultimate nanny state, IMO, and that, and the goofy libs, are the main reasons I left. I'm much happier here in the SE corner of WA state.
I can't say a thing about NYers, as I've never either visited or lived there.
yes, but what kind of jobs can they get? home prices in the NYC metro area are high - but so are salaries.
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