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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 10 December 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 10 December 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 12/10/2006 5:12:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, December 10th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former Secretary of State James A. Baker III and former Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Ind., co-chairmen of the Iraq Study Group; Sens. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., and Sam Brownback, R-Kan.; composer Marvin Hamlisch.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Baker and Hamilton.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Baker and Hamilton; Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Trent Lott, R-Miss.

THIS WEEK (ABC): British Prime Minister Tony Blair; Sens. Joe Biden, D-Del., and Gordon Smith, R-Ore.; actor Ed Asner.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Baker and Hamilton; Reps. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., and Jane Harman, D-Calif.; Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, leader of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq; Israeli Vice Prime Minister Shimon Peres.


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To: Bahbah
Jane wants us to start moving out RIGHT NOW. She wants to focus on other parts of the world that are more dangerous, like Lebanon.

But but but .. I thought the Dems have been yammering that we should stop policing the worlds problems???

Haven't they been yammering to Pull the Troops and Bring them Home??

421 posted on 12/10/2006 9:16:29 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: Carolinamom
I can go you one better. Chas Freeman, a career diplomat and former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, was a member of the Expert Working Groups and Military Senior Advisor Panel for the ISG in Group Four: Strategic Environment.

Expert Working Groups and Military Senior Advisor Panel

On June 16, 2004 Freeman was a signatory to a statement, Diplomats and Military Commanders for Change Official Statement that called for the defeat of George Bush in the 2004 election. Some excerpts:

"From the outset, President George W. Bush adopted an overbearing approach to America's role in the world, relying upon military might and righteousness, insensitive to the concerns of traditional friends and allies, and disdainful of the United Nations. Instead of building upon America's great economic and moral strength to lead other nations in a coordinated campaign to address the causes of terrorism and to stifle its resources, the Administration, motivated more by ideology than by reasoned analysis, struck out on its own. It led the United States into an ill-planned and costly war from which exit is uncertain. It justified the invasion of Iraq by manipulation of uncertain intelligence about weapons of mass destruction, and by a cynical campaign to persuade the public that Saddam Hussein was linked to Al Qaeda and the attacks of September 11. The evidence did not support this argument."

"The Bush Administration has shown that it does not grasp these circumstances of the new era, and is not able to rise to the responsibilities of world leadership in either style or substance. It is time for a change."

Freeman also signed a Letter to President Bush from U.S. Diplomats--April 30, 2004

How could Freeman [and there are others] be part of a "bi-partisan" review of our policy towards Iraq? I fault Baker for including such people on the working groups that produced the actual report. It is one thing to have a different perspective and another to have a partisan, political agenda.

422 posted on 12/10/2006 9:17:10 AM PST by kabar
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To: cake_crumb

Yep, just in a different package.


423 posted on 12/10/2006 9:19:01 AM PST by kabar
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To: Bahbah; Txsleuth
Thanks. From just listening, it sounded like the same old Katrina 'gimme gimme'.

The world is so bizarro, I can't keep up.

Intervene in Kosovo, stay out of North Korea, talk to Iran, Get out of Iraq, Intervene in Darfur, stay out of Syria/Lebanon.

I. Just. Don't. Get. It.

424 posted on 12/10/2006 9:19:09 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: kabar

Good Lord. So Baker chose those who would testify to what he [Baker] had already decided would be the "consensu".


425 posted on 12/10/2006 9:19:24 AM PST by Carolinamom ("I don't have time to be fingerpointing." ---President George W. Bush)
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To: Mo1

Oh my goodness, Wolfie has joined the DNC. Asks how Shays can justify spending all of this money in Iraq that could be used at home for social programs.

Harman says the President is going to use his command authority which will go to Gates at the Pentagon. Wolfie points out he is still the commander in chief. WHAT AN ASTOUNDING STATEMENT BY HARMAN.


426 posted on 12/10/2006 9:21:10 AM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: cardinal4

Brookings is a lib think-tank.


427 posted on 12/10/2006 9:22:26 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: MNJohnnie; All
It pays for us to realize we have the enemy in Iraq--terrorists and the enemy from within--Democrats.

To them(the dems) the Iraq war is just another issue they can use to promote their power. They could care less about the ramifications unless it could decrease their power/numbers.

To the democrats everything is politics all the time, nothing has any true or real meaning or value except pure unadulterated power at any and all costs.

For Sen. Levin to state that we need to pull out is only words designed to decrease our stature as pubbies and increase his. He really doesn't care either way what the consequences are.

We need to remember that when we start analyzing dem/msm statements and at election time when we so easily opt to teach our own party a lesson.

428 posted on 12/10/2006 9:22:58 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Mo1
Ambassador Edward P. Djerejian was the editor who put it together.
429 posted on 12/10/2006 9:23:32 AM PST by kabar
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To: Bahbah

Shays: We need to understand the enemy better.

Harman: We have a lot of people there, but not experienced.

We have to get the Iraq problem behind us, so we can concentrate on N. Korea, Lebanon, and other places..

She just does NOT understand that Iraq is THE most important fight.

Shays : We cannot afford to LOSE in Iraq, we have to win in Iraq...so the money needs to go there.

Jane: We are failing in Iraq...so we are throwing good money after bad....we ARE losing in Iraq.

The President is going to LOSE HIS COMMAND AUTHORITY to Gates...

Wolf: But the President is still the CIC..

Jane: But he won't be the one that makes the decisions...(or something equally as dumb)...

IOW...According to Jane, Gates will be the new most powerful person in America!!

Jane: I am not angry at Pelosi, Reyes is an excellent choice, but I will stay in the game..I am HERE, Wolf.

What about Jefferson's reelection???

Jane: Well we each get elected by our own voters, so I won't comment on his election...but, he hasn't been charged.

Wolf talking about Foley....didn't mention that Rahm Emmanuel knew about it.

Shays: Some people should have been held accountable..( I am assuming he meant Republicans, the dolt)


430 posted on 12/10/2006 9:24:11 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: mware
What no JIMMY CARTER?????

Looks like the media is covering for him until the ruckus dies down.

JC has gone too far this time, but it's merely a symptom of the overriding triumphalism of the left in the success of their outrageous and dishonest quest to reclaim power in Washington.  They think they won it all, even though they barely squeaked out a victory in both the House and the Senate. 

Historically they had an average turnover, around 30 seats in their favor, in the sixth year of the other party's presidency.  This after over a decade of historically unprecedented losses for them (see this Ann Coulter column on this issue).  They would have to have won nearly 100 seats in the House last November and 20 seats in the Senate just to get back to even, but they didn't even come close.  They may or may not have a one seat margin in the Senate now, 51/49, depending on lots of issues, not the least of which is what happens with Joe Lieberman or several others on any given issue.  Before the election it was 55/45 in favor of the Republicans.  In the House the balance went from 232 to 203 in favor of the Republicans to 231 to 204 (likely outcomes assumed of a couple of open races) in favor of the Dhimmicrats.  And the Republicans were stymied at every turn, not just by their own incompetence but by the nature of the institutions with close margins.  Well they're closer now.

The Dhimmicrats won't be able to get even the most modest things accomplished, let alone the more radical things that their leadership and the moonbat base have been talking about since the election, but they don't see that.  They are so full of themselves for giving the evil Republicans a "thumping," as our President so artlessly put it, that they are trotting out every lunatic proposal as if it were holy writ.  And that includes Jimmy the C and his "we must wipe out Israel to solve all problems in the world" rant.  The man insists that he wants to help Israel, but everything he says and does is aimed at helping them back into the showers at Buchenwald.  And Jimmy is just the tip of the moonbat iceberg.

A few in the DBM are hoping to whistle past the graveyard and pretend that everything is OK with this fantasy and hope the rest of us don't notice.  This weekend's shows were designed to cement their view of reality and the Dhimmicrat's agenda as The Agenda.  By Tuesday they'll realize that they have overreached and that their fall is going to be long and there won't be a soft landing.  My hope is that they don't take the rest of us with them.

Oh, and Jimmy also has become something of an embarrassment in regards to his book.  He hasn't been treated kindly by the major media reviewers (see What Would Jimmy Do in the WaPo via PowerLine) nor his own allies as to the truthfulness or analytic competence he has exhibited.  His response?  Say that the reviewers were all Jews.  Yep, Jimmah.  That works every time.  Just look how well it has served Mel Gibson's image.  Of course, Mel might come back from his grotesque behavior.  After all, he has real accomplishments and talent to fall back on.  You've got nothing.

431 posted on 12/10/2006 9:24:19 AM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: MNJohnnie; All
The president[Ahmadinejad] then said: "And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," according to a quote published by Iran's state news outlet, the Islamic Republic News Agency.

"As for the Americans, if they do not swiftly succeed in casting off the yoke of the New York Jewry (which has the same intelligence as a monkey that saws through the branch on which it is perching), well - it won't be long before they go under"...The Testament of A. Hitler.

Some things never change. The free world was asleep in 1936, and it's slumbering now in another time of great peril. Thanks for your excellent synopsis. There really isn't much more to say; we can only hope that the sleepy, pampered majority in the West can be roused before it's too late. Sadly, this has always been the case.
432 posted on 12/10/2006 9:24:51 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: rodguy911

Shays says someone should have been held accountable for Foley...he doesn't say who and he doesn't say how. No one mentions that Rahm Emmanuel knew all about the situation. End of segment.

Jane Harman should really take something to relax her. She is just so hyper.


433 posted on 12/10/2006 9:24:57 AM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: kabar

So Baker kept the writing inhouse w/his own firm? That figures, doesn't it?


434 posted on 12/10/2006 9:26:42 AM PST by Carolinamom ("I don't have time to be fingerpointing." ---President George W. Bush)
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To: Carolinamom

" The more I see, hear, and learn about these D.C. lawmakers, the more I cringe at knowing that so many of them are so unintelligent, uninformed, unprincipled, and unpatriotic. God help us all; they won't."

Amen, unfortunately.


435 posted on 12/10/2006 9:27:05 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: rodguy911
Really amazing thing. Hitler screwed up Germany from 1932 to 1945 and it took 5 years to put the Germans back in charge of their country and 60 years before we finished withdrawing all our troops compared to Saddam who spent 35 years screwing up Iraq and 18 months after liberation the Iraqis had their own Govt and our losers in the DC Political-Media Complex want to declare Iraq a failure?

What idiots.
436 posted on 12/10/2006 9:27:10 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Txsleuth

Harmon: "We are throwing good money after bad." What, I wonder, does she have to say about all those social programs that continue being funded but don't work? Midnight basketball, anyone?


437 posted on 12/10/2006 9:28:20 AM PST by Carolinamom ("I don't have time to be fingerpointing." ---President George W. Bush)
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To: OldFriend
The most important I've read in years. The only thing I would add to McClendon's piece is how in weakens the US permanently, and emboldens Islamic fundamentalists.

DO TREAD ON US.

It's Bin Laden's strong horse/weak horse argument demonstrated to be true. Here's the link. I implore all to read. 5 Year Countdown

438 posted on 12/10/2006 9:28:25 AM PST by chiller (Old Media is not yet dead. Turn them off and they will die. For the sake of sanity.)
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To: Carolinamom

I also heard that Baker and Hamilton hired a Public relations firm to handle their appearances...LOL


439 posted on 12/10/2006 9:28:28 AM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Carolinamom

Yep, just follow the money.


440 posted on 12/10/2006 9:28:58 AM PST by kabar
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