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ISG must stand for, uh, Inane Strategy Guesswork (Mark Steyn Nails The Illustrious Seniors Group)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12/10/2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/10/2006 2:22:58 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: goldstategop
If they're lucky, this document will be tossed in the trash and these men and women will be the laughingstocks of posterity.

At least this is a great compilation of how not to deal with the situation.

Steyn nails it again...

21 posted on 12/10/2006 4:02:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: goldstategop
James Baker has achieved the perfect reductio ad absurdum of diplomatic self-adulation: he's less rational than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Bwahahahahahaha.

22 posted on 12/10/2006 4:11:01 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: goldstategop
It disturbs me to consider the possibility, but consider it I must, that at some point there will be (or perhaps has already been) a not so subtle nudge to President Bush from James Baker that were it not for his efforts in November/December 2000, that it could be President Al Gore finishing up his second term.

Not that I believe it was all due to Baker's assistance in Florida that the non-stop recount nonsense was finally ended, but in Baker's egomaniac mind, he may actually believe that the President 'owes' him.

Hence, the 'Surrender Gran'Pas' want THEIRS!

And when do they want it?

NOW!
23 posted on 12/10/2006 4:21:08 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: goldstategop

The tragic thing is this report gets credence in the media and the Congress (and the WH- the President was respectful to it, when we knew what was coming even before it was released). Great article. The tragedy is the US (State Dept blah blah blah) will strongly suggest Israel give up more peace. Bush is the best friend of Israel compared to other Presidents, but Condi says some disturbing things. I wish someone other than Olmert were in charge in Israel.


24 posted on 12/10/2006 4:27:40 AM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: goldstategop

I'm confused! Are there 79 points to this report or is 79 the average age of the group that produced the report?


25 posted on 12/10/2006 4:29:19 AM PST by SMM48
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To: goldstategop

ISG = Inane Self-Gratification = Mental Masturbation


26 posted on 12/10/2006 4:46:12 AM PST by T-Bird45
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To: goldstategop
See also, from pookie18's Today's Toons 12/4/06:


27 posted on 12/10/2006 4:50:02 AM PST by RonDog
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To: goldstategop
So there you have it: an Iraq "Support Group" that brings together the Arab League, the European Union, Iran, Russia, China and the U.N. And with support like that who needs lack of support?
How can it possibly fail? The "Support Group" thus constituted would have two distinct classes of members: a) those with a history of committing mass murder and b) those with a history of enabling, apologizing for or turning a blind eye towards mass murder.

Who wouldn't want to be supported by a group like that?

28 posted on 12/10/2006 4:54:10 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: goldstategop
I'm not one of those who assumes that just because much of James Baker's post-government career has been so lavishly endowed by the Saudis that he must necessarily be a wholly owned subsidiary of King Abdullah, but it's striking how this document frames all the issues within the pathologies of the enemy.
I assume it, and have for a long time. Baker is a bought-and-sold Saudi agent (though he's probably too brick-stupid to be able to face that fact to himself). I don't know what motivates the other senility-prone nitwits in the "group", other than plain garden-variety treason-for-the-sake-of-trendiness, but I have a very strong opinion that Bush I and his cadaver clique have long been motivated by their strong links to the House of Saud.
29 posted on 12/10/2006 4:59:19 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: goldstategop

"Only in Washington would you still behave like its 1947 and make sure the "f*cking Jews" were kept out of the corridors of power."

and from the context of the study report... baker states ....the whole iraq problem is the fault of the "f*cking Jews"...if they give up the golan heights...everything will over there will be just peachy...

baker has become another antisemetic a-hole...the likes of which are exemplified by the worst president in US history...jimmah carter!!!!


30 posted on 12/10/2006 5:04:58 AM PST by hnj_00
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To: MNJohnnie
Some where the ghost of LBJ is laughing his butt off

If there's any justice in the universe at all, that somewhere is Hell.

31 posted on 12/10/2006 5:05:11 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: MNJohnnie
Only in Washington DC would you form a Congressional Commission and include not a single retired military officer
It would be like forming a commission to study some big city high-crime problem and include only defense lawyers and paroled prisoners.
32 posted on 12/10/2006 5:06:45 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: PghBaldy
I wish someone other than Olmert were in charge in Israel.
The Israeli's would be smart to read the handwriting-on-the-wall that the ISG represents and dump their own Mr. Appeaser and put a Leader back in charge.
33 posted on 12/10/2006 5:11:19 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: RonDog

Great Toon. But actually, Steyn said on the O'Reilly show that this report isn't exactly Cut And Run, it's more like Chat And Run.


34 posted on 12/10/2006 5:13:04 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: goldstategop
I'm not one of those who assumes that just because much of James Baker's post-government career has been so lavishly endowed by the Saudis that he must necessarily be a wholly owned subsidiary of King Abdullah,

I am.

but it's striking how this document frames all the issues within the pathologies of the enemy.

Spot on. Baker is a coward, among other things.

35 posted on 12/10/2006 5:13:43 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Unapologetically Celebrating the Birth of Christ!!)
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To: Lurker
Here's how it happened. The Saudi royals wrote some really, really big checks to Mr. Bakers law firm.

The media really does not seem interested at all in asking if Mr. Baker might be biased or influenced. They haven't the slightest curiosity about Baker and his Saudi friends.

36 posted on 12/10/2006 5:15:56 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: goldstategop
The more one reads the recommendations the worse it gets.

RECOMMENDATION 26: Constitution review. Review of the constitution is essential to national reconciliation and should be pursued on an urgent basis. The United Nations has expertise in this field, and should play a role in this process.

Doesn't this just make you want to start pulling your hair out?
37 posted on 12/10/2006 5:17:24 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: goldstategop; All
Mark Steyn is a rare and to treasured item.
Pity he cannot be the holder of high office; any high office where the only criteria is sound judgement and unfailing common sense.

Not to be wasted as a communications this, or press secretary that, but a position of substance. Maybe
"Deputy National Security Advisor for Having Your Crap Together".
Or "Special Assistant Secretary for NOT Screwing the Pooch".
38 posted on 12/10/2006 5:27:36 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Lagavulin, early in the day.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
The media really does not seem interested at all in asking if Mr. Baker might be biased or influenced. They haven't the slightest curiosity about Baker and his Saudi friends.

Just remember this. It's only politicians who have to report receiving money from foreign nationals. Members of the media and more importantly those who own those media outlets are under no such legal requirements.

Plus if the dunderheads 'working' in the Legacy Media made too much noise about the Saudi connection they'd lose their all important 'access'.

Think CNN and their absolutely criminal defense of Husseins regime in order to 'protect' their Baghdad Bureau.

L

39 posted on 12/10/2006 5:30:06 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: hnj_00; All
Baker has NOT "become". He ALWAYS was.
Even a cursory peek at his history shows that very clearly.
A friend to the Bush family and their Jew Hating Albatross.
40 posted on 12/10/2006 5:31:59 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Lagavulin, early in the day.)
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